GUN Took my Kimber Ultra Carry II out to the range for the first time.

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  1. cantankerously

    cantankerously Active Member

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    Broke it down and cleaned it, then i shot 100 rounds through it.

    50 rounds of American Eagle FMJ.
    50 rounds of Federal JHP +Ps.

    Had about 3 FTFs with the FMJs and about 15 with the +Ps. Needless to say i won't be putting +Ps through it anymore.

    After shooting i broke it down and cleaned it again. I'll probably put 200 rounds of FMJ through it next weekend for the break in process.



    I also have a couple boxes of Hornady Taps and Golden Sabers on order.





    All in all i'm pretty happy with it. I went in knowing there were going to be some FTFs. Hopefully they'll disappear once it gets broken in a bit. The gun itself shot like a dream. It took me about 14 rounds to get used to the sights - then i was hitting clays at 10 yards pretty easily.
     
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    You went in knowing there would be FTF's?
     
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    3 FTF's per 50 is more than my P22!
     
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    Yeah - i've never shot a 1911 before, so i figured some would get limp wristed. By the end of the box i was getting less FTFs.
     
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    18 percent failure rate.

    You are aware of the Glock family of fine firearms right?
     
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    I don't see how the "gun shot like a dream" when you had so many FTF's :hsughno:
     
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    You really aren't supposed to shoot +Ps in a 1911. I'm sure most of the kinks will be worked out after some breaking in. If they aren't i'll be giving my Kimber rep a call.
     
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    And it was the nicest shooting pistol i've ever shot. And i've shot a lot of pistols.
     
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    I wouldn't be too impressed by that many failures... :dunno:

    Is this your carry weapon now?
     
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    Ive shot close to 150 rounds of Blazer Aluminum, RA9T, WWB, and S&B so far through a new P2000SK without any hickups. :o
     
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    I'm reserving judgement on that for the next couple hundred rounds.
     
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    You deserve a medal or something.
     
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    I like to meddle.
     
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    McCroskey Jonny, what can you make out of this? OT Supporter

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    my used Sig 226 and my XD9 have never had a FTF in over 15,000 combined
    rounds :dunno:
     
  16. AB13

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    Boy you guys are harsh. If it's a new gun, it's to be expected. I expect the same thing. I've seen that happen to 2,000-4,000 dollar customs. It's all about learning your gun, learning what ammo it likes, and making the slight tweaks to get it to run. By slight, I mean, figuring out ammo or mags it likes, every gun is different.

    Now if he would have said, the slide kept locking up/seized or the trigger was sticking, the safety didn't work as they should, then yeah, dog shit.

    But if it's just a few FTF's, you guys are making too big of a deal out of it. Work it out. It's ammo or mag related, don't be so quick to give up on the firearm, especially if it showed potential. It's an easy fix for most competent gun owners knowledgeable enough.

    Most of my guns, will NOT be used for Self Defence, and I anticipate most feel the same. So it's like a "trailer queen hot rod". Not a daily driver, needs some tweaking, but performs.

    If it came down to SD, I've got my glocks and Wheel guns. But again, I don't look at all my guns as SD weapons, some of us gun owners have managed to find different uses for our guns.
     
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    Exactly. I'm also looking for some new mags as i've heard the Kimber stock ones leave something to be desired.
     
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    The more reliable mags (I say "more" reliable because not one mag will work in all guns) are the Chip McCormick Power Mags. Wilson 47D's are always staple. If you've got a little more cash, anty up for the Cobra mags.
     
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    Not trying to stir the pot, but this is a huge failure rate.
    AB knows more about custom guns than anyone I know, but if I bought a stock gun and it jammed 1/5 of the time I'd be Concernicus.
     
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    I just ordered some Wilson mags - 47 OX
     
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    Oh, I agree. It is a bad failure rate, and a little more than I'm used to. But it could all be some really something simple or stupid.

    Case in point. My friend recently got into shooting, and I advised him to by a G34 for his first handgun. His first 2 range trips was full of failures, and they were prodomiently slide locking issues. Feeling bad I had advised him to get a Glock, I accompanied him.

    Found out it was a weak slide release spring, I swapped it out and he has put 3k rounds through it ever since and hasn't had an issue. Took all of 3 seconds to figure out, as he was just about ready to sell it to a co worker for a deep loss.

    All I'm saying is, if it's a "new gun", don't lose hope, it's usually something really simple to fix. I expect all of my new guns to choke. I don't even bat an eye, at that anymore, as I usually figure it out. My first few trips with my gun I actually try to "make it choke", it's learning your guns likes, and dislikes. I'd rather try and break it on the range than at a match (most of the times). I try my collection of mags, my collection of different loads, and adjust them here and there.

    If it's an old gun, with the same old issues, even after being serviced, I'd say, cut your losses. Doesn't sound like the case here.
     
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    it can take up to 500 rounds to break in a gun. This is especially true of guns with tight tolerences, or match chambers.

    You can dryfire the snot out of them to accelerate the process. Rack the slide real hard, and really really work it in. Might save you some ammo.
     
  23. Aequitas

    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    My buddy's Kimber Pro Carry had a similar issue. It wasn't feeding fmj's reliably and practically wouldn't feed hp's. He contacted customer service and they arranged for someone to pick the gun up from his house and paid for all shipping costs. He got the gun back in a couple of weeks and it shoots great now.

    Not saying your pistol will need work, but know that if it does you'll be dealing with some good customer service.
     
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    Good to know. If i get past 500 rounds and i'm still having issues, i'll be giving my Kimber rep a call.
     
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    Thunderbear Yggdrasil's Forester.

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    FTF = failure to feed or failure to fire?
     

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