A&P to clip or not to clip (dylan, joey and adam please stop by :) )

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  1. derekOT

    derekOT New Member

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    so at the womens hockey event a few weekends ago I got the chance to shoot beside some guys from getty. When exposing my shots, I tried to max out my exposure before clipping the highlights. The ice was the brightest area in the exposure so it was what i exposed for. Consequently, the players are somewhat underexposed.

    When I looked at the shots from getty's harry how, I saw that he clipped the ice pretty severely but was able to expose his subjects properly.

    What do you guys think is the best way to expose in this situation?

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    shot with 30D @iso 1600

    im thinking he should have abit more leeway on his since he was shooting with a D3 so he should have better dynamic range?
     
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    anybody?
     
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    turbodude Just a photographer OT Supporter

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    im no hockey shooter. but i would try to find a bit of a middle ground favoring the players before the ice. but def not blowing the ice completley
     
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    thanks al!

    would you say the getty image is on the money or is the ice abit too blown out?
     
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    turbodude Just a photographer OT Supporter

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    i would say its clipped a little because of the way the puck just feels like it floating in nothingness, however, properly exposed player with the details in the skates, and the fact that the player is wearing white, helps the image pop. so i feel it was a good compromise. So yeah final answer, getty image feels spot on
     
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    Let the ice clip a little, but not too much.

    Highlight tone priority helps (which you don't have).

    Use a fill light slider in whatever editing software you use.
     
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    Don't be afraid to blow out the ice a bit, there shuoldn't be a huge difference between a white jersey and ice.. but of course priority goes to the player. It's hard to really say what's best because it's different at every arena.

    You can see in the Getty shot how there is still a bit of definition in the ice. You don't need to blow it out completely, but you also don't need to see every mark in it. Find a middleground where it's not pure white, theres still some slight texture to it.

    Nice shots dude
     
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    I agree, expose for your subjects, but don't blow out the ice COMPLETELY.
     
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    thanks Al, Dylan, Joey and CornUponCob for the expert advice

    I'll upload some more of the hockey soon :)
     

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