MMA tito ortiz on ufc and dana white

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  1. The Ripper

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    Just tito ortiz on leaving the ufc and whats lies ahead for the "huntington beach bad boy" a decent read for tito fans or haters.

    Source MMAweekly.
    The end of the journey for “The Huntington Beach Bad Boy,” Tito Ortiz, and the Ultimate Fighting Championship seems to be drawing near. The former light heavyweight champion has all but packed his bags to leave the company after his May 24 fight against Lyoto Machida.

    “I really think it’s time for me to move on,” said Ortiz during an appearance on MMAWeekly Radio. “I’d love to finish my career with the UFC, but the way they treat me, it’s just… it’s really, really bad. It really hurts me. It’s really disrespectful towards me. I’ve given them 11 years of my life, blood, sweat and tears in that Octagon, putting my heart on the line, putting my life on the line, and they give me no respect for it because I’m outspoken.”

    The outspoken nature of which Ortiz speaks is his tendency to try and fight for fighters to receive a higher salary from the various promotions, a battle he has been fighting for many years.

    “I believe the fighters should get a fair cut of what they (UFC) make. They’ve made their money back time and time over, now it’s time I think for the fighters to start receiving revenue that they get because of us,” Ortiz stated. “I’ve been a person to be outspoken about that, and no one else has.

    “I think Randy Couture and Chuck Liddell should be thanking me from three years ago when I spoke out and they started getting paid more money, and I started making more money. That’s what it’s really about, focusing on fighters of the future, not just being paid low sums like some of the undercard guys are getting.”

    Obviously, Ortiz has been fighting a very public battle with UFC president Dana White. The California native can’t deny it’s a major reason for his departure.

    “To me, it’s just with Dana White, he has such hard feelings against me, he’s been very disrespectful towards me, and I’m willing to move on,” he commented. “To not have to wake up every day and worry about what he’s going to say about me.”

    While the former champion doesn’t deny the tough relationship with White, he also says that he’s ready to put all of that behind him and just go somewhere else.

    “I really just want to focus on what’s going to happen after this. I’m willing to move on, I’m willing to think about the positive stuff that’s around me and diss all the negative stuff,” Ortiz said about his future. “I’m over all the negative stuff, I’m over talking about Dana… I’m very thankful for Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta, for what they’ve done for me. I’m very thankful, and they don’t want to help me anymore, which is fine.”

    Ortiz went on to say that he was negotiating for a new contract with the UFC, but ultimately the talks ended and the last fight on his current contract, the fight against Machida, will likely be his last UFC fight ever.

    “At this point it’s pretty much stopped,” he said of the contract negotiations. “I gave them my first offer. They came back at me with some totally… I thought was ridiculous (offer). I held out, and I held out, and I held out until they gave me something else, which was a six-fight contract, and I don’t want to be held down for six fights with them.

    “I want to go to a company that they’ve got respect, that’s the biggest thing. It’s not about the money, people got to understand, the money’s going to be there no matter what. It’s about a fair cut and being respected as a champ, as the fighter I am.”

    After his May 24 fight against Lyoto Machida, Ortiz stated he has a 60-day waiting period before he can negotiate with another company. During that time he plans on attending some shows, checking out the production value and how the various organizations handle promoting their events.

    He also talked about working behind the scenes of a promotion to help with marketing, while working to build young fighters and make new stars in the sport.
    Specifically, Ortiz mentioned organizations such as EliteXC and Affliction as promotions he intends on checking out. And what kind of animal does Tito Ortiz hope to unleash when he works with a new promoter?
    “I think it’s going to be huge for any company that does sign me,” said Ortiz about a positive relationship with a new company. “The marketability I’ll have where I want to put my heart and soul into it, as I did for the UFC.”
     
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    I'm wicked tired of hearing Tito cry about stupid shit.
     
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    while i agree that fighters should be getting paid more, i doubt he is the reason chuck and randy started to get paid more. Tito is still such a looser so its hard to side with the guy, even though i totally agree with what he says about undercard fighters getting paid shit.
     
  4. Redneck Shinobi

    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    He thinks he's bigger than he really is. He trains like he's the best guy out there, when in reality I don't even put him in the top 10 anymore. I think they should get paid better wages, but Tito is one of the last people to deserve a higher wage, he fights as well as the undercards lately.

    Edit: I guess that is being harsh, but he hasn't really impressed me. He just comes off more as a douche when he does these interviews when his cause is just.
     
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    I love Tito, and I'm excited to see where he will go next. I completely agree with him that he will provide a huge boost to whatever promotion he signs with next - I just hope he doesn't pull a Fedor and sign into an organization with a bunch of unknowns.
     
  6. Redneck Shinobi

    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    Wait what? :ugh::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
  7. alkalinesolo

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    Remind me who M1 had again?
     
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    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    I thought you were talking about where he is now. M1 was obviously set up for success even Tim Sylvia was going to sign with them.:hsugh:
     
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    tito and elite xc would be a good match lol
     
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    no i totally agree. Im not saying he should get paid more- FUCK THAT NOISE. Im saying all the undercard guys should get at LEAST 10K + 10K win bonus.
     
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    it's a business man, you can't pay all the undercard fighters. boxers on undercards don't make near that normally. it's all about drawing power and how many views you can pull in because of your name.
     
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    im POSITIVE the ufc can afford to pay ALL the new fighters 10K minimum at every event. So what about boxing ?? How does this make any difference?
    Boxing has been and always will be about the one main bout. The ufc is trying to put together a good show from top to bottom, so they should and could pay accordingly.
     
  13. Redneck Shinobi

    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    yawgmoth nine > ten OT Supporter

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    I'm really unsure how to take this article. Tit's has a great point, but he's also a shitfuck who really can't hang with the best of em anymore. If by some miracle he beats Machida then I'll eat my words, but really...

    Based on context, I can't argue with him, but personally, he doesn't deserve what he's asking, his last couple of performances has shown us all that.
     
  15. alkalinesolo

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    In this sport you don't deserve money for winning. You deserve more money for making the company more money.
    Which is exactly what Tito still does, regardless of his dwindling ability.
     

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