Time To Upgrade?~!

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  1. thoughtshewas18

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    Opty 165 @ 2.8ghz
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    750 gigs of HD space
    ATI X1950XT
    Abit An8 fatal1ty mobo
    (current setup)

    Ive been pricing out things on newegg because I have the itch to upgrade. I want the lastest DX10 setup but everytime I put a system together I think about waiting a little more. I want the Q6600 quad core and I know the price cuts are in a week or two here. DDR3 is fairly new and extremely expensive but I know its going to be the new technology. Theres only a few boards out there for it and I want to do crossfire down the road so should I just wait?

    I dont want to do something then end up switching months later. Basically I just cant decide on mobo/ram.
     
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    :ugh2: to buying a radeon gpu nowadays.
     
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    I've been happy with ati. Never once built a system with a nvidia card in it :)

    And thanks for your information it really helped.
     
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    I know that gigabyte has one model using the p35 chipset that supports both ddr2 and ddr3, just not at the same time. For some reason, I can't find the model #, but it does exist.
     
  7. Doc Brown

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    Only two suggestions to your list.

    One is to get the 74gb Raptor instead. It's faster.

    The second one is to try to find a benchmark of the ati vs. similar price nVidia. I'm not anti ati, it's just that nVidia owns it right now.

    Also, crossfire boards might be tough to find in the latest chipsets.
     
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    The upcoming x38 chipset this aug/sept will have 2x PCI-E 2.0 x16 lanes.
    Perfect for crossfire or sli

    most will probably have ddr3 only though
     
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    Is that raptor drive much faster? I figured it would be a tough time to go with ati (crossfire). I guess I could break my ati streak lol.
     
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    Looks to me like if I did this upgrade that I would just be looking to change out the mobo down the road? Its hard trying to find a crossfire/ddr2/ddr3 with certain other things that I want.

    Also add vista ultimate to the list :)
     
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    I guess it depends on your budget.
    DDR3 with low timings are coming. OCZ is releasing a bunch this Sept and it sure will be expensive.
     
  13. Doc Brown

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    No, it's not a big difference. But it is faster.

    If you're going to get a Raptor for your os, you might as well get the faster one.

    http://tweakers.net/reviews/621/2

    Btw, the Fujitsu in that benchmark is a scsi fibre channel drive.
     
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    I'd bet a value meal that ddr3 is not going to benchmark much faster than ddr2 does.

    Plus it's new out, and is going to cost a small fortune.

    I would go as far to say that it would be one of the very last things on any list of things to change in a cost/performance sense.
     
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    cheapest stick of ddr3 on newegg right now is a 512mb stick from kingston @ $105, so you're looking over $400 for 2gb of ram, which is crazy.
     
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    Comes out to about 1900 right now but thats with the quads at their normal price so id say around 1600+ tax and shipping. What you guys think of it now? The only thing I would consider is the mobo... That board is getting good reviews but certain things are better with the asus/abit yadda yadda..
     
  18. Doc Brown

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    I love Gigabyte. I went with my Abit because it had so many sata connectors, including an external one. I should have gone with the Gigabyte though.


    For what it's worth, the gun metal gray P182 that you have picked out gives me geek wood.

    Carry on.
     
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    <3 :mamoru:

    But thanks for the info man.
     
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    There are 2 things I don't like about that build

    1. the radeon card
    nvidia > ati

    2. the case
    first, I hate doors.
    second, if you use that case with the DQ6,... the gigabyte board's 8-pin CPU power connector would be at the top area (near I/O Panel).
    Since the PSU is at the bottom, you will have the 8-pin power chord cross the entire board to reach it.

    The Thermaltake PSU's 4+4 CPU power cable is probably long enough but it's quite thick (and other PSUs as well) so I don't think you can hide it at the back of the mobo tray.

    Cases with bottom PSU bays should invert the mobo, like what Lian-li did in their PC-V1000

    Note that the I/O panel (where the 8-pin cpu power connector is) is near the PSU bay? The CPU power cable does not need to cross the motherboard.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Two thoughts:

    1. Several people here, myself included, have been happy with the Corsair HX520/620 power supplies. They're made by a good company, and they have modular power cables that actually aren't more trouble than they're worth.

    2. I don't like that inverted motherboard idea one bit, but I suppose that's personal preference. HOWEVER, having the power supply at the bottom is a non-starter altogether -- what good will it do to have the PCI cards hanging out at the top of the case, roasting in the heat, while the power supply with its exhaust fan spins away uselessly at the bottom of the case where the air is cool?
     
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    In the lian-li, a 120mm side fan + vent hole on the side panel is directly facing the expansion slots.

    [​IMG]

    For the power supply being at the bottom,... the PSU fan's job is to cool the PSU only.

    It's actually nice because it is isolated from the warm air generated by the cpu heatsink and other components.

    For the lian-li, the bottom of the PSU bay is perforated with holes so it gets cool air from outside the case.
    For the Antec, a 120mm fan pushes air (that is already inside the case) towards the PSU.
     
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    :bowdown: Lian-li cases!! I think I will switch because ive always questioned having teh psu at the bottom like that. I'm sure ill just run into problems.
     
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    Other Thoughts: For those of you worried about fitting your PSU, don't. I put a Thermaltake 1000w PSU in this baby with room to spare. My system specs: AMD FX-62, Zalman 9500 (plenty of room even with the cpu shield), ASUS Crosshair MB, 2 x EVGA 8800 GTX's in SLI (very nice), 3 x Raptor 150's, X-Fi Extreme Gamer Sound, and 2 x DVD/ROM. This case Rocks!

    Guess not :)
     

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