A&P Thinking of buying a flash kit v.canon

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  1. Twisted STi

    Twisted STi All wheel or no wheel OT Supporter

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    I think I'm going to get 2x 580EX II + ST-E2 transmitter. Anyone here use this setup, or hear anything about it? I've read good reviews on B&H/Adorama, but thought I would ask my local OTAP before making the purchase.
     
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    mobbarley Active Member

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    if you are shooting indoors and want ettl.. sure why not.
     
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    you could also get away with 430s
     
  4. Twisted STi

    Twisted STi All wheel or no wheel OT Supporter

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    that's a good point. the 580 was just the first one I saw.

    what about outdoors?
     
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    wizeguy4 New Member

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    because ST-E2 is infrared, using it outdoors could get teh ir signal washed out from teh sunlight and this will only get worse the further the signal need to go. SO for outodoor use, you could end up with spotty results
     
  6. Twisted STi

    Twisted STi All wheel or no wheel OT Supporter

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    ah, gotcha. what are my other options, pocket wizards?
     
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    Hyperite Vagina Junction OT Supporter

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    I use 580EXII and two 430EXIIs. Works great and I've only missed the flash a couple times outdoors. Indoors works every time. I think the II's IR transmitter/receivers are a lot more sensitive than I's, as I can pop it slightly out of line of sight. Could never do that with the Is.
     
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    NOR*CAL OT Supporter

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    Dang, that's like $1,000!
     
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    for that kind of money, get pocket wizards. its worth the consistent results, indoors or out.
     
  10. Jbrown

    Jbrown OT Supporter

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    Don't get pocket wizards either. Get Cyber Syncs, unless you plan on shooting SUPER far. Nothing but good reviews, AND made in America.


    http://www.alienbees.com/cybersync.html

    You can also save a lot of money by not getting 580s
     
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    3-THREE-7 New Member

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    ^ Damn it. Every time I come on OT I end up spending money.
     
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    f/2.8L New Member

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    Ditch the ST-E2's in favor of Pocket Wizards.
     
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    adamlewis88 New Member

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    Pocket Wizards are the way to go if you really have money to burn but if I was doing this on my own dime, Id get cybersyncs or something similar.
     
  14. Twisted STi

    Twisted STi All wheel or no wheel OT Supporter

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    Thanks for the feedback guys. I have a 430 EX right now, what else would I have to get to get to hook up a pocket wizard? Would I need the same connector if I decided on getting a seperate 430 EXII?

    will be ordering from B&H or Adorama, so a link would be :bigthumb: ;)

    I also see that there are 2 different types of pocket wizards, does the MultiMax have enough extra capability to justify getting one?
     
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    Killyin Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies.

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    Pocket Wizards aren't that bad on the wallet. Then again I'd had my speedlights for years prior to getting the pocket wizards. I can't imagine what the hit on the wallet would be like if I were to buy a 580EX II and a pair of pocket wizards at the same time would be like. :o
     
  16. NOR*CAL

    NOR*CAL OT Supporter

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    Before you even make your purchase.

    What are you trying to achieve?
     
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    Twisted STi All wheel or no wheel OT Supporter

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    I want to get the flash off the camera, and try new things - play with the light, I guess.
     
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    Youre going to need n+1 pocket wizards where n is the number of flashes you have.

    MultiMaxes work as transceivers so they can send and receive a signal. They also have more channels of operation available to them. To fire 430s youre going to need a miniphone->pc cord for each flash and then some kind of pc->hotshoe adapter. 580s have a PC port built into them (as do a number of Nikon flashes. Thats why for strobist stuff, its normally better to go with Nikon flashes) so you would just need a miniphone->pc cord to get them to fire.
     
  19. NOR*CAL

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    Because PW's forces your strobes to work in manual, you don't need any of Canon's ETTL flashes(480ex or 580ex). You can pick them up for the "bling" if you have the funds handy. Another gripe about Canon's IR technology, is that they don't work will in well lit conditions, since this blinds the IR sensors.

    If saving money is your thing, you can start off with a couple of Vivitar 285HV's(retails under $100 new, and maybe $80 used). It's electronically, and phsyically well built, which means they'll work after you drop them.

    The industry standard for obvious reasons as far as wireless triggers go is the Pocket Wizard. They go for about $185 each, and you'll need a minium of two. One goes on camera, and one goes on the flash.

    I can go on and on, but my setup consists of 1-580ex and 3-430ex, and I'd like to pick up an ST-E2 in the near future. My wirless trigger of choice is the Radio Popper.
     
  20. Jbrown

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    GET CYBER SYNCS NOT POCKET WIZARDS.


    unless you like to waste money
     
  21. Killyin

    Killyin Vicariously I, live while the whole world dies.

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    I want the 1/4 mile range. :squint:
     
  22. adamlewis88

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    its only 1000ft and thats on a VERY good day in an open field with the transmitter higher than the receiver.

    They go far, but not that far haha. Of course, you can daisy chain them for a range of 11tybillion
     
  23. quid

    quid I Piss Excellence OT Supporter

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    so are cybercyncs better than the cactus ones?
     
  24. Perkwunos

    Perkwunos Dog Bones OT Supporter

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    Ohh yeah :bigthumb:
     
  25. Jbrown

    Jbrown OT Supporter

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    How dare you compare the two? :hsugh:



    Cyber Syncs are made in america, by a reputable company, and are very affordable.
     

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