A&P Thinking of a D40, my first dslr..have a few questions w/pics!

Discussion in 'Lifestyle' started by nikocb, Jun 16, 2007.

  1. nikocb

    nikocb New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,709
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Reading PA
    I've been dying to own a dslr for some time now...I've been using PAS cameras for a while now, but my friend just recently bought a Canon EOS DIGITAL REBEL XT. He doesn't know how to use it at all..I guess he thought that dropping a bunch of money on a fancy camera is the only thing it takes to take great photos.
    Anyway, I picked up the thing and started exploring the options and took a few pics. I was instantly hooked and am craving to have my own dslr.
    After reading a bunch I think the Nikon D40 is for me. But I have a few quesions first (sorry if they are noob questions)..

    I'm kinda nervous about the d40 only being 6.1 mp, but supposedly the quality is as good as the d40x (which is 10 mp i think?)

    When a camera is being sold as 'body only' what does that mean exactly?

    Would you recomend something other than the D40 for me? I don't have a ton of cash to spend (about $400-600)


    Here are a few of my photos I've taken with PAS and my friends DSLR. I know they're all of cars but that's all I have uploaded on my comp right now.

    Thanks


    PAS:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]



    Playing around with my friends dslr:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  2. TtamNedlog

    TtamNedlog OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2006
    Messages:
    2,125
    Likes Received:
    0
    You should be able to notice the increased detail captured with a 10mp over a 6. If it were 8 over 6, not so much. But 10 over 6 is a fairly substantial increase. That said, the more megapixels, the better off you'll probably be for print. If you don't plan to print much, it's probably less of an issue for you.

    That means it doesn't come with a lens and you'll need to buy one separately. Choosing lenses can be tougher than choosing the camera. =)

    It sounds about right given your price range, but don't take my word for it. I'm sure others here have better advice on this question.
     
  3. nicklk

    nicklk New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2004
    Messages:
    23,760
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Denver, CO
    Less ricer angles
     
  4. nikocb

    nikocb New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,709
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Reading PA

    thanks for your contribution :)
     
  5. nikocb

    nikocb New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,709
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Reading PA
    See that's what I was thinking. But I keep hearing everyone say 'get the D40 instead of the D40x..there's almost no difference' How can 4 mp not show a difference??
    And I won't be using the camera primarily for printing, but I'd like to on occasion. About what size can the D40 print at while remaining decent quality?
     
  6. Blair

    Blair New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2003
    Messages:
    8,532
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Oregon
    you will be able to print poster size and up without having any problems.
     
  7. nikocb

    nikocb New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,709
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Reading PA
    Sweet.

    So why would anyone spend the extra money on a D40x?:dunno:

    Also, do you guys having any recomendations on where to buy the D40?
     
  8. Blair

    Blair New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2003
    Messages:
    8,532
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Oregon
  9. maxlt1

    maxlt1 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2003
    Messages:
    5,318
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Austin
    I work at Wolf Camera and can tell you there is definitely a noticeable difference between the D40 and D40x. We've played around with and printed prints from both and you can easily notice the difference in quality.

    As far as body only...The D40 only comes in a kit with the 18-55mm lens while the D40x comes body only...That might just be the way we do it at Wolf/Ritz though so don't quote me on that.

    One thing to keep in mind with the D40/D40x is that due to the camera's smaller size, it doesn't house any of the auto focus mechanisms inside the body...therefore you have to use AF-S lenses which have the focus motors built in or else it wont auto focus. So if you go with the D40..you wont be able to use older nikon lenses.

    But if i were you...I would save up and get the X over the D40
     
  10. 1200mk

    1200mk Still same OG

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2001
    Messages:
    16,888
    Likes Received:
    3
    what kind of p+s were you previously using?
     
  11. Traitor

    Traitor New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2006
    Messages:
    5,548
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Science Crew
    god i love e36 m3's
     
  12. tenplanescrashing

    tenplanescrashing Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2005
    Messages:
    9,287
    Likes Received:
    0
    I would have said the same thing...ricer angles don't make the shot any better.

    with that said, the d40x looks to be much better than the d40.
     
  13. SkyAce2004

    SkyAce2004 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2005
    Messages:
    5,497
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    ive got a D40 and love it. I would say save your money on lenses and get the D40 over the X unless you plan on doing alot of poster prints.

    and yeah, ricer angles FTL
     
  14. Hypnos_VI

    Hypnos_VI JENGA!

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2007
    Messages:
    2,819
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Portsmouth, NH
    i believe the D40 is slightly better at ricer angles than the D40x... some new technology in the X model that prevents the rice from hitting the sensor...or something...
     
  15. SkyAce2004

    SkyAce2004 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2005
    Messages:
    5,497
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    :rofl:
     
  16. NSX

    NSX OT Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Messages:
    8,942
    Likes Received:
    16
    Location:
    none yo'

    Because consumers, by and large, are idiots. They are told what to believe so they generally just go by numbers. "More=better." In this case however, it's not necessarily true. Print an 8"x10" from a 6mp and a 10mp and you won't be able to tell any different. Only if you go poster size you might be able to.

    Owned by marketing.:squint:
     
  17. mobbarley

    mobbarley Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2005
    Messages:
    9,256
    Likes Received:
    2
    Location:
    Sydney

    pussyhurt people justifying their 6 mp always make me :mamoru:
     
  18. nikocb

    nikocb New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,709
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Reading PA
    So you can only get the D40x body?
    The body alone is practically as much as the D40. Is it really that much better?
     
  19. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2003
    Messages:
    46,800
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    East Lansing, MI
    Just buy the D40, as others have said more megapixels != better. Unless you're printing poster size you really won't be able to see any difference.

    And yeah, learn to hold your camera level. :rofl: In those first few pics from your P&S it looks like there's some weird vignetting going on. Is that just your finger over the lens?
     
  20. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2003
    Messages:
    46,800
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    East Lansing, MI
    No. And I recommend you buy the D40 as a body only and buy a better lens than the 18-55 it comes with. I've never used that 18-55 but kit lenses are notoriously sub-par quality. I'd recommend a 50mm 1.8 even though it isn't the best walkaround lens; it's dirt cheap, fast, and creates sharp pictures.
     
  21. nikocb

    nikocb New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,709
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Reading PA
    Canon Powershot A510
     
  22. SkyAce2004

    SkyAce2004 New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2005
    Messages:
    5,497
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Florida
    50mm 1.8 = no autofocus on the D40
     
  23. nikocb

    nikocb New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,709
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Reading PA
  24. snapa

    snapa Fake brim = Ze Hotness

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2003
    Messages:
    4,353
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Rhode Island
    Here's my two cents.

    Lenses looked a lot better on my D50 (6mp) than on my D80 (10mp). My 18-200 was king on my D50, I had no problems with the sharpness. Threw it on the 18-200 and all the sharpness issues were exposed. Although when I shoot concerts, the extra space to crop is very welcomed.

    I would go the D40 route myself.

    As for lenses, everyone that says the kit lens is trash is off base. It's good for what it is. Yes, it's not a "pro" or 2.8 lens. But really, it's plenty sharp and a solid place to start. An 18-55 + 55-200 VR will take you a long way. A 50mm won't autofocus on the D40 anyway. If you're really interested in having that wide of an aperture, I'd pick up the Sigma 30 1.4.
     
  25. nikocb

    nikocb New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    Messages:
    1,709
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Reading PA

    Thanks. I think this is good advice. I think I just going to go with the D40 kit. It seems like the best thing to start with and when I start to get better with it then I'll look into lenses.
     

Share This Page