MIL Thinking about join the Coast Guard

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  1. BrianM87

    BrianM87 New Member

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    It seems like the thing for me because I want to serve, and I would like to do it on or around the water. Unfortunately I have no idea of what I would want to do if I actually join.

    *Edit* So I guess what I am asking is what is a good way to figure this out?

    After reading some other post regarding joining, I guess I need some info on me..So:

    19 and graduated high school. Did decent enough, B and C student all 4 years, but school isn't really my thing. I love to learn, I just don't do well in classrooms, or indoors in general. I am an outdoors person. Did scouting for as long as I can remember and became an Eagle Scout. (It's my limited understanding that this helps me in some way if I join? Not sure)

    My time is spent scuba diving, shooting and going to community college. I'd like to go to a university eventually, but I just can't afford it. I'm hoping somewhere down the road the military could help with this.

    Any advice/tips/general information or flaming even?
     
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  2. bloodred83

    bloodred83 im in ur cost gard, savin' ur boatz

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    http://www.gocoastguard.com/

    There is some decent info on that site to get you started. What field did you want to work in? Once you get some more info and an idea of what you want to do let me know. I'm in the USCG and have been for the last 5.5 years. I'm an Operations Specialist 2nd class (soon to be 1st :coold:)


    Also, you're a lot like me. I didn't want to go to college after high school, even though I was an honor roll student. School just wasn't my thing. I joined the CG when I was 18 and went to boot camp 1 month after graduation. Being able to retire at 38 years old FTW.
     
  3. bloodred83

    bloodred83 im in ur cost gard, savin' ur boatz

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    If you enjoy the outdoors and shooting like you said, then I'd recommend you go Boatswains Mate or even Gunners Mate. No matter what rate you chose if you decided that you just want to do 4 years, get your MGIBill and be honorably discharged your time will fly by. The first year is going to fly by with specialist/technical school's and boot camp.

    The eagle scouts will help you advance 6 months quicker than regular people, only intially. You should graduate from boot camp as a Seaman/E-3, the other people will be Seaman Apprentices/E-2 until they get their pract's completed and serve 6 months at their next unit without any negative marks.
     
  4. BrianM87

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    Ok. Looking at that link you gave me, Boatswains Mate and Gunners Mate look like the ones for me to consider. Thanks.

    When I do go talk to a recruiter, what should I expect? Any particular questions that I should ask them?
     
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    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    I have no experience with CG, but in general, don't expect anything that the Recruiter tells you to be the truth unless he can include it into the contract you will sign at MEPS. Ask him if he has any of his recruits that have recently gone through basic that you can talk with. Same for any that have recently graduated from Boatswains Mate or Gunners Mate school. They will be able to give you the unvarnished version of what you can expect when you join.
     
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    bloodred83 im in ur cost gard, savin' ur boatz

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    Yeah, you really shouldn't depend on the recruiter for information on the rate you'd like to chose. Just ask questions like, is there a bonus for BM or GM guaranteed "A" school sign ups or things of that nature. Or even early enlistment bonuses. I was scheduled to leave for bootcamp in August, but they called me a week later after the initial paper work and asked if I'd like to leave for bootcamp in July instead, and that I'd get $2k more for doing so. Things like that are nice to know about.

    If you're going to go BM or GM you'll need to be able to obtain at least a Secret clearance, or at a minimum be eligible for one. It's not the hardest thing in the world to get the Secret clearance, but just make sure you don't lie on your security paperwork (standard form-86) in the drugs you've used section. At my last unit while I worked and maintained our security clearance paperwork we had BM's submit their SF-86's with the use of cocaine 13times filled out in that section and they still ended up with a clearance 6 months later. If you're honest and don't do that crap while in the CG you'll be fine.

    I work with BM's every day with my job, so I know a bit more about their jobs than GM's. The reason I suggested BM as a suitable rate for you to chose is they are the most outdoorsy rate of the CG. A typical day of a BM that works at a land station drives boats ranging from 25' to 47' conducting security patrols for ferry escorts, responding to search and rescue, maritime domain awareness patrols and things of that nature. Basically BM's are our policeman of the CG. They are our boarding officers, coxswains and jack of all nautical trades.

    Don't get me wrong though, you may end up going to a ship straight out of bootcamp if you don't have a guaranteed "A" school. I know I did. I went to one as a seaman for a year before I signed up for my specialist "A" school. It was hard and challenging being away for 2-3 months at a time on a ship and being so low in the food chain, but it was also some of the best times I've had to date in the CG. Being only18/19 at the time made things even easier; no family to feel bad about leaving alone for months at a time. I got to really see what all the jobs of the CG did on a 378' ship which helped me chose my rate. Not to mention it was cool seeing places like Costa Rica, Hawaii, Guatemala, Mexico and the sun rise in the south pacific ocean with nothing but water surrounding you.

    If there's anything else you'd like to know just ask man. The more you know before making this important life decision the better off you are.
     
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    someonenew He's Dangerous

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    Coast Guard?

    are you at least 6'3":mamoru:

    they don't take anyone shorter than that so they can all walk back to shore when their boats sink:mamoru:
     
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    bloodred83 im in ur cost gard, savin' ur boatz

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    If you knew the job of a BM then you'd understand why.
     
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    bloodred83 im in ur cost gard, savin' ur boatz

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    That's a totally original joke. Totally.
     
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    Dude Secret is easy to get. I have yet to meet someone in the Air Force without a secret clearance :dunno:
     
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    bloodred83 im in ur cost gard, savin' ur boatz

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    Yeah, you'd either have to have a rather bad criminal history, proof of dishonesty, current drug problem or not willing to drop your dual citizenship in favor for a US citizenship to not get a secret clearance. TS is a whole other story.
     
  12. nietsni3

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    how many levels of clearance are there in the military and what is the highest one that permanent resident can get?


    and what are these "rate" and "unrate" things?
     
  13. BrianM87

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    Thanks for all the advice. I have many questions to ask, but as soon as I try and form them into a coherent thought, they just kinda go poof.

    6'5". And I'm the shortest one in my family. My brother is 6'10" :eek3:
     
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    I had asthma when I was younger, but never had any problems after around 8 or so, but my parents would still put it down in medical stuff up until I started doing my own paperwork. Will this kill my chances of getting in?
     
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    bloodred83 im in ur cost gard, savin' ur boatz

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    I believe BM's just need to be able to qualify for a secret clearance, not actually hold one. So either way you better be eligible for one. I know several people who hold dual citizenships with secret clearances. Also, you can join the USCG w/o a US citizenship, but you need to apply for one if you're going to have a clearance. It usually takes 12 months to get the citizenship, which is usually quicker than civilians.
     
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    bloodred83 im in ur cost gard, savin' ur boatz

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    I don't think it will kill your chances of getting in. But they will evaluate all of you past medical conditions when you go to MEPs and get your complete physical prior to entry of service.

    I'm 6'4" :o
     
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    bloodred83 im in ur cost gard, savin' ur boatz

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    Typically jobs in the military require you to apply for a Secret or Top Secret clearance.

    Rate/rates/rating is just another word for job specialty. A nonrate is someone that is in the military that is not yet rated, like a seaman recruit/E-1, seaman apprentice/E-2 and seaman/E-3.
     
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    what if you cant get your citizenship while in the military? does that mean you cant get any secret clearance at all?
     
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    Ok. I've been reading about basic training from the military sites, but it just gives kind of an overview. What should I expect/what's going to happen? WHat sort of training is there, small arms qualifications, that sort of thing. I'd like to hear a firsthand account rather than just basing my assumptions on those websites.
     
  20. NPT

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    who?
     

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