A&P Thinking about a 30D + EF-S 17-85mm

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  1. the Rosswog

    the Rosswog OT Supporter

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    comments? suggestions?

    I'm a creative director looking to getting into doing my own photos. i want a body with manual controls, and a flexible lense to get started.
     
  2. SLED

    SLED build an idiot proof device and someone else will

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    GREAT Camera body if you can afford it. A little overkill for a newb, but it will suit you just fine. The lens is meh, but it will be fine for awhile. You're not really going to get a good kit lens anyways.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    The lens isn't too bad but if you don't need that much reach, I'd suggest the Tamron 17-50 f/2.8 or if you can afford it, the Canon 17-55 f/2.8 IS that was just released. The 17-85 IS is a little slow at the long end, f/5.6 @ 85mm, boo.....
     
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    30D is a great camera.. i own one. but the kitlens is a bit slow.. i'd body the body and buy a decent lens instead of getting the kit lens
     
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    What are you going to be taking pictures of?
     
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    any reviews out on the 17-55 yet?...in comparison to the 16-35 f/2.8L?
     
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    the kit lens is the 18-55mm, i'm considering the 17-85mm
     
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    to start off with, I'll be shooting a lot of architecture (low light interiors, natural light exteriors), automotive, portraits. I will also be doing some artistic / abstract work as well. In the future I want to obtain a dedicated macro lense for product shots.

    My favorite style of photo is with a low depth of field, crisp and sharp subject with clearly defined separation and smooth bokeh.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    Yeah, there's a handful on fredmiranda.com. There are some complaints of CA at 17mm but the image quality is pretty damn good. A lot of people won't buy it because it isn't an L lens, though. Ego > EF-S lens.

    I picked up a 16-35 f/2.8L since I plan on upgrading to a 1D MKII later this year so it would've been pointless for me to buy a Tamron 17-50 or the Canon 17-55.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    For what you shoot, the Nikon might be a better choice since their super wide angle lens selection is pretty good. Canon isn't bad but you don't have as many choices (Canon 10-22, Tokina 12-24, Tamron 11-18 are the most common).
     
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    I think you should make yet another thread about it. this iw what, atleast the 3rd in past 24 hours
     
  12. the Rosswog

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    Yea--that was definitely a concern also, but definitely not immediate for me. As I don't have any current plans to upgrade from my 20D, but there is definitely the possibility down the road. I just registered on FM, so I'll probably do some research there before I really make a decision. The extra range on the EF-S wont really be needed as I already have the tamron 28-75 to cover the higher range. It would be mainly to have something wider.
     
  14. Loopy

    Loopy What do you think happens when you get too far fro

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    You won't be happy with the 17-85 (I own this lens) then. It exhibits considerable barrel/pincushion distortion, so your architecture shots will look especially off. It cannot open up enough for decent low light use or to provide a nice background blur. The only good thing about it is the IS, which works very well.

    You would be better off just buying the body and a couple of lenses. The EF-S 60mm Macro would work well for both portraits and your future product shots, and would be usable in low light. The 50mm 1.4 (I own this lens) will provide better low light performance, but it has a noisy AF. Pair either of those with a decent wide lens and you'll likely be all set.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    If you have the 28-75 and want something wider, get a Tokina 12-24 or Canon 10-22.
     
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    I was looking at that early, I'm trying to decide if I want wider first, or telephoto.
     
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    fixed :bowdown:
     
  18. Loopy

    Loopy What do you think happens when you get too far fro

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    No, build quality is substantially better, and if you want to play the edit quote game, do it in the main forum, faggot.
     
  19. SpiderOnTheFloor

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    get that new 17-50 tamron lens. looks to be a sure winner..way better than the 17-85
     
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    noisy my ass. get the 50 over the macro..sure the macro might be a tiny bit shaper, but not at anything greater than f/2.8 :p . the 50 also works well on full frame/film and the 60 certainly doesn't
     
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    I'm talking about image quality. :sadwavey: I've owned one and it sucked.
     
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    Noisy relative to what? A completely empty room? The 50mm f/1.4 has micro USM which isn't as quiet as ring USM, but it isn't that far off. :hsugh: The shutter slap on any of Canon's cameras is 200x louder than the 50mm f/1.4 focusing motor. Maybe yours is broken. :sadwavey:

    gee gee gee!
     
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    It is noisy compared to other USM lenses :o
     
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    Damn it, I need to read the whole thread before I reply :mad:
     
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    GO GO GO pull the trigger. Im saving for that lens for my 30D. i have heard great things!
     

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