Thermogenic Aids...

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  1. Man Bear Pig

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    What are some good ones? I have tried different hydoxycut formulas with little if any results. I hate hardcore because it turned my shit bright red like I was bleeding out my ass :ugh: is the exact face I made.

    Anyway, goals; drop 6-7% of my BF% and get down to anywhere from 10-12%. Hardcore cardio training is not really an option, because of the amount of leg work I do (oly lifter). Diet is good, but I am dealing with the paradox of gaining muscle mass and cutting some fat. Current weight is 190 and I would like to see some serious results by the end mid October.
     
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    Thermorexin
    EC stack

    metabolic modifiers like sesapure and glucorell can be quite effective
     
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    Tell me about thermorexin.
     
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    Synephrine hcl:
    Synephrine is an alpha 1 agonist. Its main purpose is appetite suppression. It also has some mild thermogenic effects.

    Caffeine USP:
    Caffeine is a basic part of most thermogenic stacks, it produces most of its effects by raising Cyclic AMP levels. In conjunction with other thermogens it has been shown to be more effective.

    Yohimbine hcl:
    Yohimbine is an alpha 2 antagonist. It is main effects are lipolysis of stubborn fats. It does this by blocking the A2 which is like an off switch for fat burning in those stubborn areas. It also has mild appetite suppressive effects.

    Black tea
    Black tea extract, is a methylxanthine similar to caffeine. However it is also a mild beta adrenoceptor agonist. It provides mild stimulation, beta receptor related thermogenesis and bronchiodilation for improved cardio output.​
    Green tea (98%):
    Green tea extract provides (60%) of ecgc, a thermogenic enhancing polyphenol. Studies show significant increase in basal metabolic rate with green tea, significantly more when combined with other thermogens.
    Nootropic and Focus Intensification Complex:


    DMAE is a precursor to acetylcholine the main neurotransmitter in the human brain. Supplementation with DMAE has been shown to increase neuromuscular performance as well as providing a direct but mild stimulatory effect which acts to reduce perceived exertion.​
    Vinpocetine:
    Vinpocetine increases blood flow to the brain as well as increasing levels of noradrenaline and dopamine which increases mental energy and focus.

    Acetyl-l-Carnitine:
    Acetyl-l-Carnitine is a co-factor and regulator of a number of biological reactions that are important both for lipolysis and neural function including the synthesis of acetylcholine. It has been shown in numerous studies to improve the levels of beneficial neurotransmitters as well as upregulating their receptors. It has positive impact on thyrotropin (thyroid) and growth hormone releasing factors.

    Acetyl-tyrosine:
    A more biologically active form of tyrosine which is a precursor for dopamine and norepinephrine that are among the "fat burning" and appetite control neurotransmitters. It was added because Tyrosine is often depleted with "fat burner" use. Tyrosine is also essential for the synthesis of thyroid hormone.


    Lipolytic Environment Complex:
    Additional Ingredients:

    Rhodiola Rosea (3% rosavins):

    Rhodiola Rosea, is a powerful adaptogen. It has been shown in clinical trials to help maintain neurotransmitter production, endurance, and stave off depression (which is a common cause of cravings as high sugar meals raise serotonin levels). It also may have some benefits with respect to erectile function, which has been reported by testers of Thermorexin.
    [FONT=tahoma,sans-serif] Piperine: a thermogenic extract derived from black pepper
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    Narengin: the active phytonutrient in grapefruit. Is a cyp3a4 inhibitor, decreasing breakdown of the methyxanthines and xanthines in thermorexin as well as increasing their active life.

    Ginger root extract:
    Ginger root has been shown to improve uptake of nutrients, though by a slightly different method than peperine. There is an additive effect, with respect to absorption, when they are used in conjunction.


    MINERAL COMPLEX:

    Zinc
    Immune function and hormone maintenance. Also helps with tanning, essential for melanin production.

    Magnesium
    prevents cramping from heavy exercise and electrolyte depletion, may have benefits with respect to hormone levels
    Copper
    Immune function, also important for melanin production.

    Vitamin B1- Thiamine
    Thiamin enhances circulation and helps with the metabolism of carbohydrates. It is also required for the health of the nervous system and is used in the biosynthesis of the neurotransmittersacetylcholine and gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA).

    Vitamin B3- as co-factor Nicotinamide
    Nicotinamide, via its major metabolite NAD++ (nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide), is involved in a wide range of biological processes but most importantly the production of energy.

    Vitamin B5- as d-calcium pantothenate
    d-calcium pantothenate is important for the production of the essential cofactor called Coenzyme A. Coenzyme A is necessary for production of steroid hormones and cholesterol. Coenzyme A is also necessary for some of the more important enzymatic processes include the break down and use of carbohydrates and fats. (ie. glycogenolysis, glycolysis, lipolysis, peroxisomal and mitochondrial beta oxidation, and the TCA energy producing cycle )

    Vitamin B6- as co-factor Piridoxal-5-phosphate
    Piridoxal-5-phosphate is the active form of vitamin B-6, it is essential for protein synthesis and lipid metabolism. P-5-P has additional benefits with respect to heart health, influence on homcysteine levels, and on reducing pre-menstrual symptoms likely due to its effects on neurotransmitter synthesis.

    Vitamin B12- cyanocobalimin
    Cyanocobalamin is a Powerful blood building factor. It is a key nutrient for new growth. It is Important factor in maintaining health of nervous system, including brain cells. Cyanocobalamin is also necessary for normal digestion, absorption of foods, protein synthesis and carbohydrate and fat metabolism.


    Vitamin C is required in the synthesis of collagen in connective tissue, neurotransmitters, steroid hormones, carnitine, conversion of cholesterol to bile acids and enhances iron bioavailability. Ascorbic acid is a great antioxidant and helps protect the body against free radicals released during exercise and dieting.

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    Well I hear it's easier to catch something like a fever with aids...
     
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    I don't know how to get a hold of the Ephedrine, so I did some reading about "t-Rex" has anyone had any personal experience using it? Results? How long?
     
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    Before you get on something like an E/C stack I would really try to get in some moderate cardio and get your diet strict. Once you hit a wall doing that THEN you jump on the thermo and that kick-starts the fatloss again.

    This has always been the best method for losing fat in my experience. People underestimate what a good diet and exercise can get you.
     
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    I picked up some T-Rex the other day. Gonna see how it works out for me
     
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    I wish GNC had the termorenix, or I else I would get some pronto. My local one is pretty chill about returning stuff that makes you shit red... lol, or stuff in general which you are not satisfied with.
     
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