the web vs clouds

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    When cloud porn becomes a reality then there will be something to discuss here.
     
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    On the outset of the web as we know it, there are webpages, and links. There is most often a pile of server-side code behind the webpages, or a web-app but generally this code is hidden and even if it isn't there is no well defined method to download it.

    Now, leaving security concerns aside for a moment, imagine you could be using a web-app, or vising a website, and you could click view source to fetch the entire source code to what you are seeing, and you can (emphasis can) run the website on your computer. Also this website has all of its data in a p2p distributed cloud. The website goes down. You don't have the website on your computer, because why would anyone do that. But it so happens that the backend code for the site is also in the p2p cloud. So you can still get on with your business by running it on your computer.

    I couldn't get to wikipedia for a bit today. Imagine as above I start using it running on my own computer. I make some edits to some articles, and what do I do? I put those edits into the cloud. Then when the real wikipedia comes back it can grab them.

    Imagine there was an edit button in your browser (or your cloudscape), and you can create your own version of a page (for simplicity imagine this is a static page (nothing like a wiki in any case)) by adding or removing text or such. You put your version up in the cloud, and the cloud is versioned, so people can track your changes, including the original author. There's collaboration (primitive?), and it works naturally rather than being implemented for every different web-app out there (apps can still offer specialized collaboration).

    Thoughts.
     
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    Nice program, really, but what I'm getting at eclipses that. What I'm getting at is also incompatible with current websites. (possible workarounds)

    With httrack you can READ the website but you can't "use" it (see my example of wikipedia edits).

    Also this cloud has other far less major uses I might discuss in a bit...
     
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    anyway, dumb idea. People are selfish, and they have a right to be selfish when it comes to THEIR computer. I don't want 11ty billion people causing unecessary wear and tear on my harddrive by accessing some cache of a website that I visited recently that went offline. The hell with that, I would rather the internet exist as it does now on dedicated servers than have ANY form of p2p. Peer-2-peer is an idea made up by a bunch of hippies, free internet love, everyone connected to everyone in a giant e-love-in, it's sickening.

    I like my websites professionally hosted and my gays flaming.
     
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    The funny thing is recently Microsoft would've done well to get themselves OUTOF a sticky situation if they were smart and used p2p to distribute Windows 7.


    Websites can still be professionally hosted, and obviously I would not have 11ty billion people accessing anything on your computer without your express permission. The chances are there will be 11ty billion dedicated servers keeping every piece of content worth a fuck up.
     

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