MIL The Penatgon on 9/11 WAS a military target

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  1. SpicyMcVoodoo

    SpicyMcVoodoo New Member

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    The pentagon is the nerve center of the entire US military. I don't see how it and the people who work there could not be considered military targets. Okay, now that that's established, let me ask you...if the pentagon on 9/11 was a legitimate military target, and disabiling it was the primary goal, then how were the people on the plane not collateral damage, just like the people who are collaterally killed when we blow up a target in Iraq?

    I know this sort of question is unpallatable, but logically speaking, is there any real difference?
     
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    Theres is no difference. America has a way of finding ways to justify anything, no matter how insane.

    Here's something else to think about, why didn't America respond to the bombing of the Federal building in Oklahoma the same way it did to an attack from someone abroad? They're both terrorist, so why is there no war on the militias in the US?
     
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    cause it wasn't a militia faction that claimed the bombing. they caught the man that did it.
     
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    yes. we don't fly planes full of iraqis into defenseless buildings.
     
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    And he was part of a militia.
     
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    I don't think civilians were intentionally targeted. As I understood it, they purposely boarded the planes at a time when the civilians on board would be at their lowest so they'd be more managable. That being the case, it seems like the primary goal was to hit the building, and the civilians were a collateral consequence.
     
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    But we do send bombs into neighborhoods full of iraqis in defenseless buildings.
     
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    well here's one difference. they did it because they're terrorists and take pleasure in seeing americans die.

    we are a highly advanced military who destroy no more than is necessary to complete our mission.
     
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    WE HAVE NO MISSION IN IRAQ!!!!
     
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    As I recall he tried to join certain groups who found him too far out even for them.
     
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    It is a military target of a National Body at which we are at war or have declaired war. Al-queda does not represent any such government. What you are suggesting is that any rag-tag group that attacks the military or a military installation has some sort of justification as a "military target" of whom you are mad at. It is terrorism by any name or spin you try to put on it.
     
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    There was supposedly a tie with the OK bombing and Al Queda but since Clinton was not wanting to have to deal with another terrorist attack on our own soil during his administration, it was swept under the rug. Way too many loose ends were left open during that entire incident.
     
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    no militia claimed responsibility for the attacks you douche...

    al qaeda claimed responsibility for the 9/11 attacks.
     
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    So it's about who "claims" responsiblity? Who gives a fuck, go after them all.
     
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    I see no logical distinction in the fact that they used civilian aircraft. A missile is a missile, a plane is a plane, whether you paint the USAF logo on the side or American Airlines. Granted, there were civilians on board the aircraft, but as I've said, they were incedental to the terrorists plans, just as bombing innocent Iraqis is incedental to our plans of killing terrorists. Whether the innocent collateral damage is sitting in his house or his airplane seat, I don't think matters one bit; the distinction is immaterial. In both cases, you have a civilian in the wrong place at the wrong time who dies collaterally to achieve the primary goal.
     
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    :ugh2:
     
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    and then:

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    but:
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    wrong place at the wrong time? whoa...shame on those civilians for going about their business.
     
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    Collateral damage is intentional no matter what the generals say. It is demoralizing and undermines support of the government being attacked. Look at any major bombing campaigns in any war after WWI.
     
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    what are you talking about? Shame on the civilians? I never blamed the civilians for doing anything. Shame on those iraqi civilians for going about their business when a bomb drops into the living room. :ugh2:
     
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    And I'm sure when an Iraqi family buys a house, it says on the deed:

    "CAUTION THIS HOUSE IS CONSIDERED A MILITARY TARGET, A BOMB MAY DROP IN YOUR LIVING ROOM."

    I really don't see the difference b/w the civilians on the plane and the civilians killed in Iraq. They're both civilians doing civlian things and are killed collaterally.
     
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    :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

    I'm so happy to see you in this forum. :ugh2:

    we have a mission in Iraq, whether you agree with it or not. It is a mission, you can't argue that. Our mission right now is to stabilize Iraq and get it to the point where it can govern and defend itself.
     
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    apparently someone didn't get the memo about what sort of threads we want in this forum :rofl:
     
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    look at the date of the first post.:mamoru:
     
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    C5Load OT Resident UCLA fanatic

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    i know, they're doing a search for the word "military" and putting them in here. Military presses, for instance, have nothing to do with the military :rofl:
     

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