MMA The gracie's don't tap do they?

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  1. joechunkybutt2

    joechunkybutt2 New Member

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    I was watching a highlight real and i saw sakuraba with what looked like a kimura on someone. The ref had to stop the fight because the guys arm was bent backward and broken.

    I looked at his fight history and on both royce and royler he has "techincal submissions" does that mean he broke their bones and the ref stopped it?

    I understand having pride and everything, but not tapping will just destroy your body and you can't train for months afterwards.
     
  2. joechunkybutt2

    joechunkybutt2 New Member

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    I looked at it again, and i think it was royler...The HL is low quality but the guy looks like dan henderson si assume it it was royler.

    Anyone have a clip of that? it looks brtual
     
  3. chechen

    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    Sakuraba didn't break royler's arm. Royler has really weird shoulders. They're insanely flexible.

    Royler has tapped in competition twice, once to eddie bravo, and once to mario sperry.

    To answer your question, sometimes they tap, and sometimes they dont.
     
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    brolli OT Supporter

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    They have a LOT of pride, so in competition it isn't surprising to not see them tap.
     
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    It looked to me like Sakuraba could have broken his arm if he kept going... The ref stopped it in the interest of protecting the fighters, which I am a bit mixed on in this case....
     
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    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    in bjj tournaments they only stop a fight if someone is unconscious
     
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    I agree with this for the most part... but... things like the first Tim Sylvia/Frank Mir fight in UFC come to mind where Tim was so pumped up he didn't realize his forearm had been broken badly... Who knows, if the ref hadn't stopped it, he might have suffered career ending injuries to his arm...

    Like I said... I'm kind of mixed on this issue. In most cases, I believe the fighter should submit or risk the consequences....
     
  8. brolli

    brolli OT Supporter

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    lol Tim knew damn well it was broken. Although he had that "wtf, the fight is over?" look on his face... when Mir was asking if he wanted to continue the fight he was sweating bullets.
     
  9. DerekForeal

    DerekForeal Diamond Member

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    Its definetly a pride issue. Im sure if you asked most of the gracies they would rather be nijured for a few months then tap in a fight.
     
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    DerekForeal Diamond Member

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    word. i watched a dude get arm barred and have his arm broken and not tap. it was quite sick.
     
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    I've seen the same. It's actually not as uncommon as people think.
     

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