GUN the .40 vs 9mm debate

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  1. spoofy

    spoofy Chemically Enhanced

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    I'll be purchasing my first gun soon. My girlfriend has a Bretta 96fs (.40) which i've shot a few times now. I like the feel of the XD better so I'm getting one for myself. But I'm not sure if I should get the 9 or 40

    A friend of mine is suggesting that I get a 9mm for 2 reasons:

    1.) Ammo is cheaper and easier to find
    2.) People tend to shot the 9mm better and hitting your target is more important then stopping power.

    So my questions are:

    1.) Is there really that much of a cost difference?
    2.) Why lean on a lower caliber gun if your just going to progress to something later? why not start where you want to go?
     
  2. murph38_99

    murph38_99 OG Silver Member

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    get a .40 and practice.

    1) No. differences in prices are negligible. If you order in bulk, they are practically the same.

    2)You answered your own question by asking that. Beside you can get the XD40, and then get a 9mm conversion barrel later for about a buck fifty, but you can't go from smaller to larger, only larger to smaller.
     
  3. Shiva Chaos

    Shiva Chaos i see boobies!

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    one 9mm and one .45

    problem solved :eek5:
     
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    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    kf4zht New Member

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    .44 mag and be done with it.
     
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    Skot281?? New Member

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    Shoot both, get the one you're more comfortable with. I like my XD-9. I also like 16 more than 12.
     
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    Can't go wrong with either. But 9 IS cheaper than .40, even when bought in case loads.
     
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    Cost difference at a retail store is about 6-7 bucks per hundred for range ammo.

    You're not necessarily "leaning" on 9mm over .40. There are no natural laws of progression with defensive calibers. Not to mention that there are some very capable defensive rounds for 9mm. The XD40 was my first handgun. I loved it, but If I was to do it all over again I would buy the 9. (the 45 wasn't out when I bought it :) )
     
  9. Cannondale

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    I got a 9mm because of the price difference. 40 was just too expensive when I factored in all the range time I do.
     
  10. McCroskey

    McCroskey Jonny, what can you make out of this? OT Supporter

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    I shoot both 9mm and 40SW. I was going to buy a .45 to add to my XD9
    but I couldn't deal with the ammo prices. 40 is 2x as pricey as 9, 40 is 2x as
    pricey as 45.

    At the range, I shoot the XD9 at the spinner that's 65' out and the 40 in more
    of a "self defense" type range (20-30ft). I'm about as accurate with my 40
    as my XD9 but damn it sucks shooting the 40 at that tiny ass spinner and
    not hitting it :)
     
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    Show your work please. .40 is $2 more a box for me if I order a box or cases. That makes it over 30% more expensive than a box of 9mm, hardly negligible.

    Past that here's an image I made showing winchester's common defensive loads in the major calibers. To me the difference between them all is minute, but thats all up to you.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Shiva Chaos i see boobies!

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    .557 T-Rex or bust.
     
  14. murph38_99

    murph38_99 OG Silver Member

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    I've got an Ultramax catalog here at work that I was looking at that has 500 .40 180gr JHP Winchester ranger for $164 . and Winchester Ranger 500 .9mm 147g THP ( T series HP) for $163 :dunno: thats what I was going off of.
     
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    Most people buy a few boxes of jhp's, shoot a few mags to ensure they work in their gun and see where they hit and then do most of their practice shooting with far more affordable fmj rounds.

    Are you a shooter?
     
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    murph38_99 OG Silver Member

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    very much so. my last trip to wally world for wwb for 9mm was like 9 something and the 40 was like 10 and change. I didn't quote that I wasn't look at it at the time.
     
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    If you use the correct ammo any gun is decent. The Extreme Shock ammunition is devastating. They took down a 600lb boar with a single 9mm shot. It's like state of the art ammunition.
     
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    It's called Extreme Shock ammunition.

    I think their website is extremeshock.com. Do a google search, they have pictures and videos on their site. :bowdown:
     
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    That is shit frangible ammunition. No ballistics expert would say its devestating, state of the art, or that it doesn't lick scrotum. Other than their advertising what could possibly make you think this is devistating and state of the art?

    Let me quote Doctor Roberts:
    Far from being, “the world’s most advanced ammunition”, Extreme Shock might be better described as advertising trash and a complete waste of your money.

    From a Glock 17 the 9 mm 85 gr “Air Freedom” load offered:
    Bare Gelatin: vel=1598 f/s, pen=3.9” to 5.5”, small fragments
    Denim: vel=1596 f/s, pen=14.6”, rd=0.42”, rl=0.48”, rw=56.6 gr
    Wall: vel=1587 f/s, pen=6.7”, small fragments

    From a 1911 the .45 ACP 185 gr “Nytrillium Fragmentable JHP" gave:
    Bare Gelatin: vel=1117 f/s, pen=5.5” to 9.0”, small fragments
    Denim: vel=1120 f/s, pen=9.3” to 12.2”, small fragments
    Wall: vel=1110 f/s, pen=20+”, rd=0.42”, rl=0.57, rw=181.1 gr

    [​IMG]
     
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  23. jeri534

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    but its EXTREME!


    ill stick to gold dots
     
  24. Crossett

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    ehh, looks kinda gimmicky

    but the 500 lb boar with a 9mm is kinda cool

    [​IMG]
     
  25. RonJeremey

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    I carry the 127G +P+ SXT Round... FTW!
     

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