GUN tell me why I shouldn't buy this noveske 18" upper

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  1. Ebtromba

    Ebtromba Active Member

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    trying to join the "somewhat more accurate than the average AR" SPR-type scene. yes I know handloading is the true key to the city here.

    http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bi...u-18-556&cat=56&page=1&search=&since=&status=

    was originally going to try and piece together something from JP, but I don't have the tools or means to put together an upper at this time. seems like this would be a fairly badass out of the box solution.

    plus all the arfcom fags would give me mad respect. if I had an account there that is.

    I imagine its a little overpriced for what I'm actually getting, but about how much so?


    this would go with either my lower with RRA two stage trigger or my other lower with a bill springfield trigger job.
     
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    fatmoocow bored OT Supporter

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    For that price you're borderline going to be able to piece together one with a VIS which doesn't require any tools. The main advantage to buying the noveske is you'll have the noveske logo on the upper and he will have the feed ramps all nicely lined up and clean.

    18" is pretty heavy. You'll eventually want a PRS to balance it. Then you'll want fancy glass...and the disease continues.
     
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    If you dont mind going slightly longer, I would sell you my entire 20" RRA gun with two stage trigger PRS stock, Troy rail and wylde chamber for less or just the upper for several hundred less.

    Its extremely accurate, sub MOA gun (about 3/4 regularly), has been super reliable, just doesnt have the noveske name, but I bet shoots just as well.

    [​IMG]

    Again, if you want something slightly lighter, I'll sell just the upper so you dont have to use the heavy PRS stock.

    C'mon by and check it out and shoot it before you buy. ;)


    All that said, nothing at all wrong with the Noveske. If when I do another AR that is probably what I'll go with.
     
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    well, right now I am just sort of unsure, and anytime I drop over a grand I'd like to be, umm, sure.

    honestly I saw they came back in stock and I got a little excited.


    this upper has a proprietary gas tube length right? this 'intermediate' length, says its 1.5" shorter than rifle length. proprietary anything makes me nervous.

    i think that was only in october

    what exactly is VIS?



    thanks for the offer, but like I said I'm just unsure. I'll continue to waffle, perhaps indefinitely.
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    cause your wife/gf/whore/bf/domestic partner will be mad you spent the money?
     
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    Why not just get a legit JP. You could always have a AR smith put it together. Or buy the tools, use them, then sell them.
     
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    thanks for addressing all the points I brought up though
     
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    yeah this is what keeps pulling me back

    I doubt I would ever sell any tool though
     
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    tools are good to have.
     
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    I'm waiting for BCM to come out with their SPR uppers. I'd rather have a Recce though.
     
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    i'm waiting for BCM's lightweight uppers :wackit:
     
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    Intermediate length is not proprietary, its just a mid length which is pretty common.
     
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    Buy it, and then shoot 10 round groups to assess accuracy.

    This is of course, if you have the money. Keep in mind super duper baller barrels from Krieger which are completely overkill for an AR's inherent accuracy potential are also $500.

    Also keep in mind that while Noveske does make a fine product, you are paying a decent chunk of money for the strength of the brand.

    Also, for Sheri Noveske's cosmetic surgery, but that I appreciate 1000% No typo.
     
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    this
     
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    /me goes to google for pics of Sheri Noveske.


    Very nice.
     
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  18. You sure love pushing that overpriced VIS, don't you?
     
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    Once we're in noveske SPR territory my arguments are even more relevant. Your talking $90 for the VIS over the standard rail. If you're running a largish scope you'll could make that up with rings instead of Larue offset mount. You're already paying for a MUR and you're not much lighter running the standard rail. :squint:
     
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    fatmoocow bored OT Supporter

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    I notice you fagots aren't recommending a RRA or DPMS stripped upper over the MUR? It's clearly overpriced when you can get an upper for $80.
     
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    You guys can have your opinions all you want, but monolithic uppers are the way things are actually going.

    Both Noveske and LMT are really pushing the monolithic upper, other companies are coming on board, several of the new AR .308 platforms coming to market are all monolithic designs only and many of the platforms being considered by military are a similar design. It does make a lot of sense when it comes to mounting optics and other things and having it all be on a one sturdy piece of upper.

    Now, whether its worth the money to you or me, that is another deal, but it is a very valid way of doing things and something you're going to see much more of in the future.

    And yeah, looking at a Noveske upper, for the difference in cost there is absolutely no reason not to get the VIS version for the money.
     
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    I stand corrected. I thought that was just their version of the mid length gas system.
     

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