Teflon treatment on new car

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  1. Evil_Jeanyus

    Evil_Jeanyus That's it Ellen, cup the balls.

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    My father recently purchased a new car. It has some kind of teflon treatment, and you're not supposed to wax the car, and apparently it lasts for 8 years. Does anyone know any more about this, and what kind of cleaning products can be used?

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  2. mycoplasma

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    It's a dealer profit maker/ripoff product. Google "perma-plate" and you will learn a lot more on these kinds of product. It's basically a synthetic polymer sealant that has longer durability than traditional wax but it's definitely not going to last 8 years without maintenance and care. When your father bought the treatment, the dealer should have provided a car care kit (soap and refresher) to go with it.
     
  3. RenaultFreak

    RenaultFreak OMG

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    If it's the same 3M sealer they put on my car then you don't need to wax as often but after 3 months you can do it, of course polishing will defeat it, no biggie.

    I'd wax the car after 3-4 months just before winter.
     
  4. Masta Z

    Masta Z FUCK BOSTON

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    My dad forced my brother to get that done on the Z06. It was just a fuckin wax job and you needed to rewax after 3 months
     
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    Is this something they applied at the dealership? If so, it's useless. Teflon can't be applied and used in the manner you described unless applied at extreme temperatures. Temperatures that would melt plastic and rubber right off the car.
     
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    That's what you think! Actually, there are new ways to use teflon. Anyway, it's just static holding it all on your car. :naughty:
     
  7. Bigsnake

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    Van der Waal forces... but that holds all waxes on your car. Actually holds a lot of stuff together... I'm not positive but I'm not sure I'd consider it static holding it on your vehicle. From what I've learned about Van Der Waal forces the intermolecular attraction is based on the movement of the electrons around the nucleus, not because one atom has more electrons giving it an overall negative charge (or less giving it a postive charge). I'm not positive on this so anyone else who knows chemistry verify?

    The new question though is there a new catalyst to get teflon to crosslink on the paint without the high temp?
     
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  8. Scottwax

    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    Any dealer applied wax or sealant should be avoided not only because of the outrageous markup, but the fact that dealers seriously suck at waxing. Rotary holograms, dried wax in the crevices and emblems, etc.
     
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    Would you happen to know a Corey Bit Spank and a Jesus8UrBaby, perhaps? :hs:
     
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    Happen to know an intel? :wiggle:
     
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    This isnt just any dealership, and he is talking about a $170,000 car, im sure its not just some crappy dealership wax job
     
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    :ugh: He's some loser that doesn't IM me after I IMed him that one time. :rofl: ;)
     
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    I hate those people
     
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    Yeah, want to know what his away message is? "Can't fix Stupid" :wtc:
     
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    Hmm... He appears to be a genius..
     
  16. Scottwax

    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    I've detailed two Bentley Arnages that were sold through Overseas Importers and both had nasty rotary swirls in them. One of the Bentleys took almost six hours to get swirl free. The local BMW dealer sucks ass at waxing...rotary holograms all over and wax stuck everywhere.

    I wouldn't let any dealership wax a car, no matter how high end they are.
     
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    No, that's what I know. :squint: Yes, there are new ways to use Teflon, but it still needs to be applied at high temperatures to be a viable product.
     
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    My local BMW dealership is great at waxing. :)
    Though they did try to sell me that Teflon crap for $600
     
  20. Scottwax

    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    Look at your car in the sun in a few months and see if any rotary swirls pop up. Maybe you got lucky though and found a dealership that doesn't let their make-ready monkeys go nuts with wool pads and crappy wax. :x:
     
  21. autoracer1

    autoracer1 Rallyx postponed :wtc: Next one May 10.

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    Good luck.

    I work at a nissan/infiniti dealer, and am almost ashamed to say I do deliveries on cars. Unfortunately, due to the nature of the job and the pressures by management, you dont really get much time per car, and all they really care about is clean and no damage/obvious scratching. You can only do so much, especially with the shitty car brite stuff we are forced to use.

    I do still apply the things I have learned here and autopia, to a much lesser extent than on my car though. All the other people I work with, including half the detailers, have no clue what they are doing. Leave wash mitts on the ground, chamoixs on the ground, then use them on a dark car :sad2:

    Most customers just care that it is clean though. Take my advice.. if you EVER buy a car, do yourself a favour and pick one that still has its white plastic wrap on, let the mechanic do the PDI (pre delivery inspection), then take it. 99% of people with my (temporary) occupation do not care, and will wash, dry, and orbital a crappy wax. Oh, theyll probably soak the car in degreaser first, and not wax below the lower half the doors/bumpers.

    Also, I got into an argument with the head detailer about the teflon sealant thing. He was convinced the teflon worked, because the manufacturer said so :rofl: Costs $280 just for the paint sealant, and it sucks and does not hold up.
     
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    Suppose that shit needs to be the perfect temp. Or else its worthless. And as you could of guessed, most dealerships dont
     
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