GUN Talk me out of buying a Dillon XL650?

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  1. Camp OTE

    Camp OTE New Member

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    I've decided it is time to step up to a progressive press and after reaserching it seems that the Dillon XL650 is what I want to go for. I would be reloading range ammo on the machine. I know that I won't be able to offset much cost with the shooting habits and quantities I shoot, but I feel I will be able to have a little better quality loads than the WWB stuff I usually buy to take out for fun.

    Here is what I've read about the press-Pros:
    Very adaptive, productive, warranty, can be made almost fully automated

    Cons:
    Expensive, toug initial set up, expensive

    I would be loading anything "imporant" on a single stage still. Does anyone have any experience or insight they can offer?
     
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    talk you out of it?:



    They are over-priced, over hyped pieces of shit that people only like because it has the Dillon name. A Lee press would get you just as much for way less money.





    honestly, I dunno shit about presses, but I would say if you really did the research :dunno:
     
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    That seems to be the standard price for the unit, unless I blew by something in their post.

    Ever order from them?
     
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    I'm 95% on making the purchase. At this point I am looking for someone with a bad experience that could change my mind. I always shop that way. I ask people what they hate about something, instead of what they like.
     
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    993kgt building an airplane whee

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    i have a dillon XL650, lee, and rcbs press

    I just recently added the dillon Super1050

    If i had to do it all over again, I'd buy the super1050 first, it is much better than the xl650, primarily due to the way primers are loaded on the downstroke instead of an additional upstroke motion
     
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    Why does the 1050 only come with a one year warranty?

    Any other advantages to the 1050>650 other than the primer loading? Any of them have bullet feeders yet?
     
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    993kgt building an airplane whee

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    because they are commercial grade- dillon is aware that a lot of people make $$ off of reloading with them, and they do not warrant repairs because if repairs are needed, it is most likely not dillon's fault

    i read it on brianenos.com, my version isn't as good as the one i read
     
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    I know you are a big pusher for the 1050 to anyone who wants to reload, but I can't justify the cost. Plus Dillons web information on the press kind of sucks. Can you tell me a little bit more about why it is about $500ish more than a 650? -I say $500ish because it includes a casefeeder and auto primer machine right?
     
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    993kgt building an airplane whee

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    I have a dillon xl650 with a bullet feeder- the link you provided above is a piece of shit PVC based solution

    this is where the dead serious bullet feeders are:

    http://www.gsiinternational.com/

    I have one in .45ACP that I am selling too- no 3 month wait!
     
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    If you have a xl650 with a bullet feeder, why did you also add a 1050? Do you have a reloading business or something?
     
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    993kgt building an airplane whee

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    xl650 doesn't swage primer pockets, i use the 1050 for .223, the 650 is for pistol
     
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    Remind me again what swaging the primer pocket means? That's for removing crimps from military brass, correct?

    Also, I'm assuming you do the normal case prep for your .223 brass before throwing it into the case feeder?

    Last, that auto-feeding setup on that Hornady LNL is badass. Throw a hydraulic or pneumatic cylinder on the handle and you've got a fully automated setup. (if you trust the machine to not over/under load on the powder :mamoru:)

    -Feed cases
    -Feed bullets
    -Feed powder
    -Feed primer
    -Hit the ON button
    -Go have a samich
     
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    993kgt building an airplane whee

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    i use the dillon XL650 to do the initial size, deprime, and trim

    then the 1050 does the swage, (yes you are correct), primer, powder, seat, and crimp

    it is most consistent arrangement i have been able to come up with

    if you are reloading once fired brass, you don't have to trim the first go
     
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    I just placed an order for a RL550B. I finally got to see the Dillon Presses in person and really wanted a 1050. I decided to get the 550 to really learn more about reloading on a progressive machine. It seems like you can concentrate more on the loads on the 550, then concentrating on the machine. With the 1050 or 650, it seems like it would be easy to let a problem get out of hand.

    I'll probably get a 1050 when I feel more comfortable with progressive reloading and the budget allows it.
     

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