MMA Talk about ducking V KJ Noons

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  1. ITR06

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    What is with this faggot, he won by cut and wont give Diaz a rematch. Its like hes saying he gave Diaz the biggest TKO of his life. QUACK QUACK
     
  2. Optamix

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    I don't think its up to Noon's camp to choose the number one contender(them wanting alverez).

    Elite should say "this is your match, take it or leave it. Leave it, send us the belt back please"
     
  3. He didn't just cut Diaz; he really beat him up/outclassed him.
     
  4. ITR06

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    True but EliteXC has no 1 else, its not like this is there 5th fight
     
  5. ChampKind

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    Its sad because I think Noons would wreck Diaz again
     
  6. Kenny Dalglish

    Kenny Dalglish New Member

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    but if anyone can pull a win out of their ass isn't it diaz? I would like to see that fight again..
     
  7. yes, he should definitely not duck diaz.
     
  8. SCirone

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    He is asking for Alvarez, I dont call that ducking
     
  9. unless it's obvious alvarez isn't going to come fight in elitexc
     
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  11. SCirone

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    He has a contract and they said that Alvarez is fighting for Elite soon
     
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    checkii ฝรั่งตาน้ำข้าว

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    Champs should not get to pick who they fight. That is borderline cowardice.
     
  13. Redneck Shinobi

    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    Exactly, you're not a champ because you picked the right guys to fight, you're a champ because you beat the best guys.
     
  14. Sylva

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    And Alvarez > some guy he already tooled.
     
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    KJ > Alverez > Diaz
     
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    Fighting on CBS could make KJ Noons a super star. The exposure and sponsorship opportunities alone would be worth his while. And who is KJ to decide who he should fight for the title?? A true champion will fight any challenger that is placed in front of him.

    Would Nog refuse another fight with Herring??
    Would Forrest refuse another fight with Rampage??
    Would Anderson refuse another fight with Hendo??
    Would GSP refuse another fight with Fitch??
    Would BJ refuse another fight with Sherk??

    The answer is NO. These guys are champions and will fight ANYONE the UFC puts forth as a challenger. Not to mention these guys are BIG TIME NAMES who have earned the right to have a say in these matters. Not a fairly unknown and un-proven fighter like KJ Noons.
     
  17. ITR06

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    Getting 2 victories over Nick Diaz is huge
     
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    That's retarded.
     
  19. Civil Disobedient

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    he is only making himself look like he is afraid of diaz
     
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    He probably is :dunno:
     
  21. roose

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    He was beating the shit out of Diaz, but it was only one round. As a champ you'd want this fight again more than anything, to prove you're the boss.

    Noons is a pussy.

    Oh, and his manager is Vera's ex-manager, another fuckstick.
     
  22. HandgunFantasy

    HandgunFantasy My purity you stole.

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    i think diaz can take him the 2nd time

    i hope it happens
     
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    Any real champ would want to actually finish a fight that ended by a cut. KJ was easily winning the 1st round, but in MMA anything can happen - Diaz didn't look that hurt, and could have kept going if he wasn't cut.

    He should have been asking for a rematch right then and there.
     
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    I want him to take the fight. I love seeing Diaz lose
     
  25. ITR06

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    The very-public feud between EliteXC Vice President Jared Shaw and 160-pound champion KJ Noons' manager Mark Dion has now led to the official cancellation of the proposed bout for EliteXC's October return to CBS.

    Shaw today informed MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) of EliteXC's decision.

    "KJ Noons versus Nick Diaz is definitely not happening on Oct. 4," Shaw said.

    Shaw said the cancellation was unfortunate, but he believes the burden does not lie with Noons. Instead, Shaw believes Dion is to blame.

    "I still believe KJ Noons can defend his title," Shaw said. "I still believe KJ Noons is a man of honor. He comes from a great family, a fighting family. He's a great kid. He's a great athlete. I think he's just being mismanaged right now."

    Dion recently told MMAjunkie.com that by refusing to accept the bout with Diaz he was merely acting in Noons' best interest. Shaw strongly disagreed.

    "[Negotiating] is the manager's fiduciary responsibility for the fighter," Shaw said. "But it's also the manager's responsibility to get his fighter to take the right fights that lead him to financial gains, and it's up to the manager to make sure that he has the fighter understand how EliteXC feels about him. Otherwise the manager is painting whatever picture he wants to paint. And in this case, this manager -- his 15 minutes of fame is costing his client his career."

    And while Dion has promised to bring forth full details of the dispute in a perhaps-forthcoming press conference, Shaw is unconcerned.

    "I don't really have to say much because Mark Dion said pretty much everything for me," Shaw said. "In fact I wish just saying 'hi' ... would make Mark Dion have his press conference. I will be the first one there in the first row because I need a good laugh. There's not many good sit-coms on anymore, and I need a good half-hour laugh."

    Dion has claimed that Noons has little to gain in a second bout with Diaz, the man whom Noons defeated to win EliteXC's first-ever lightweight belt. Shaw finds that claim laughable.

    "So according to Mark, the opportunity to be on CBS doesn't help him, does it?" Shaw asked. "Then Mark needs to tell that to the winners of 'American Idol' or 'Survivor.' Or even the losers of those shows who have all blasted into the stratosphere.

    "He needs to saythat to any competitor or athlete who has had an opportunity to be showcased on national television. You think Michael Phelps would be on Sports Illustrated, on Wheaties boxes, would be the No. 1 Google search? You think that would happen if he didn't have the platform of network television to be showcased on? He would just be another swimmer winning awards."

    In addition to the cancellation of the proposed bout, EliteXC also elected to extend the length of Noons' contract. While Shaw would not disclose the exact length of the extension, the move limits any options Noons and Dion might seek outside of the organization.

    "We have already sent a letter," Shaw said. "It doesn't extend for fights. It just extends for time. With that and time off for injury following the first Nick Diaz fight, pull up that chair if you're not willing to fight."

    Shaw also took offense to Dion's claims to MMAjunkie.com that he was simply holding Noons out for a bout with Eddie Alvarez. While Noons' camp has stated it believes Alvarez to be EliteXC's true No. 1 contender, the DREAM lightweight grand prix champion is currently unavailable due to his impending marriage. Shaw said that shouldn't push back the fight too long, as, "People get married in five or 10 minutes."

    "I think Mark Dion owes an apology to Eddie Alvarez," Shaw said. "I think he owes an apology to every human being out there at this point.

    "You want to say Eddie Alvarez is the No. 1 contender? Fine. Do I think Eddie Alvarez is a great fighter? One-hundred percent. Do I think he's worthy of a title challenge? One-hundred percent. Does he make great fights? One-hundred percent.

    "Unfortunately Eddie is not available at this time due to recovering from an injury and also due to the fact that he is getting married, and he is going on a honeymoon. Sorry, Mark Dion. It doesn't take five to 10 minutes. It takes five to 10 days. And sometimes it takes longer than that.

    "It's marital bliss, and the guy deserves that. It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. And your selfish ass is not going to get in the way of that."

    When asked whether or not Noons would be stripped of his title, Shaw said that EliteXC was "not prepared" to make a decision about the belt at this time.

    While the conclusion of the feud between Shaw and Dion seems to be far from over, Shaw offered a message of support for Noons.

    "I think you're a champion," Shaw said. "I don't think you're scared of Nick Diaz. I would like you to prove that to the world -- that you are the champion that we believe you are.

    "EliteXC 100 percent believes that you can win this fight. We 100 percent believe Nick Diaz can win the fight. We 100 percent believe that together you make a spectacular fight."

    "KJ Noons, please wake up and smell that beautiful Hawaiian coffee. We want you to fight. We believe in you. Believe in yourself, and defend this belt."
     

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