GUN Switzerland, the safest country in the world

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  1. MikeEagle12

    MikeEagle12 New Member

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    I'm sure it would be a little different here in American as the attitudes/personalies of Americans are different in my opinion then that of the Swiss, and don't completely agree that something like this would necessarily be a good thing for our country. I only meant to provide this as something to make you think when considering harsher gun laws.
     
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    MikeEagle12 New Member

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    What is also interesting is when you look the effects the harsher gun control has had over in Britain. As gun control increases, home invasions and assaults have actually increased.
     
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    I didn't read it all yet, but I hear they're starting to change a lot of their policies with regards to keeping guns in the house and stuff... they're getting more liberal.

    I got to visit Switzerland last year... it's a great place. I saw a few Sig rifles strapped to guy's backs in the train station. :big grin:
     
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    It's my understanding that ammo is strictly controlled.
     
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    Soybomb New Member

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    not true

    I think thats also not true.

    http://www.swissrifles.com/shooting/ is great
    Do want.
     
  6. MikeEagle12

    MikeEagle12 New Member

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    hmm, maybe the article was a bit old. But case in point, it does give you another side when arguing against gun control
     
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    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    They are also half the size of Wisconsin, so that makes it much easier to deal with stuff that does happen.
     
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    I don't mean to be racist but from what I have seen in a few of the European nations like Switzerland, Finland, ect but having a homogeneous population where everyone shares the same history, culture and whatnot would make for a (for lack of a better word) smoother life.

    I'm not saying every nation should be homogeneous but it definitly takes out a lot of tension out of a small country like Switzerland some of those other northern European nations.

    ibhitlercomments
     
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    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    No you're right. That is slowly changing though. Much of Europe is being inundated with North Africans that want nothing more than to bum off their socialist society and live in slums and cause trouble. Free health care and free handouts, gotta love it.
     
  10. Dumbstixlars

    Dumbstixlars Ron Paul/AR-15/Glock/old car/Scooby/R/C croo OT Supporter

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    There is a lot of truth to this IMO, culture clash can be a big problem.
     
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    Correlation does not imply causation
     
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    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    Dude....... what?
     
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    :werd: Its true. Thats why something like this cant happen here. But even then...they are giving gun ownership too much credit in that post.

    :werd:
     
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    You find looking at the GDP on a per capita basis interesting for those countries and what percent of the population takes home the money http://economicmiracles.co.uk/europeincome_distribution.htm Other things like culture and the values a society promotes are important.
     
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    It means that because 2 things happen together does not mean one caused the other.

    for instance (extreme example):

    Almost every violent crime is caused by a person wearing underwear. therefore underwear causes violent crimes.
     
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    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    you are correct, comparisons of Britain and Switzerland or the U.S. and Japan are the closest we are going to get to a true controlled experiment, instead it is more like an natural experiment or observational study. However the data cannot be denied, even if it is difficult of impossible to link the "causes" with the "effects"

    In this case its that lack of link that is a good pro-gun argument, Britain and its anti-gun policies has a rise in crime, switzerland and its pro-gun stance has a low crime rate, the US and its pro-gun has a human caused death rate (murder and suicide) comparable of to that of a gun controlled state like Japan. Yet somehow the anti-gun groups can draw a link between lower guns and lower crime.

    Its not a gun problem the United States has, its a violence problem.

    Sorry this wasn't meant as a lecture, just addressed your point in the first paragraph and kept going.
     
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    anyone ever wonder why random shootings occur at schools and malls, but never at a gun range?
     

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