Supplement help / high heart rate v. kinda long

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  1. Cthalupa

    Cthalupa New Member

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    I'm tired of being underweight and out of shape (5'11"ish and 130lb), so I went out and got a gym membership, and have started working out. I'm alright on routines and such, and I know that I need to eat more and up my calorie intake, as well as what foods are good for doing so but -

    My question, though, is what all supplements should I be taking?

    Right now, I've got these. I've done some research, and I think this is about it, but I'd much rather get some input from people who know what they're doing/talking about before I order these and start taking them.

    ON Protein
    http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=63{2}4

    ON Creatine
    http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=381

    NOW Multivitamins
    http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=483

    NOW SuperOmega blah blah (Supposed to be fish/flax/etc, though since it doesn't list the amount of stuff in each tablet, I'm not sure if this works, or if I should get those separate where I know the actual #s. This is probably the big I'm the diciest on)
    http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=3882

    AMP (Also kinda dicey here, since it mentions it has appetite suppressing things in it, and I need to work on my appetite. But I've heard bad things about NO2, and I really do need something to help with my energy. Working out for an hour doing 3 sets of 10 reps on a handful of exercises is kinda hard for me to get through at this point)
    http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=1799


    To be honest, I'm a bit overwhelmed on some of this, so I'm not sure if I'm going in the right direction with everything. If I'm way off base on something, please, don't hesitate to point it out to me. I think this covers most of my bases, and maybe even overdoes it a bit, but I'd rather be more gung ho than needed than under do it.

    One note, though, is that my heart rate and blood pressure are higher than they should be. It's nothing huge, but it's enough that when I went in for a physical that they referred me to a cardiologist, though even with extensive testing they couldn't figure out what the cause was.

    To be honest, I'm really not sure how much strain on the heart weightlifting causes, so I don't know if I should be keeping an eye on it during the workout. I've read some stuff saying creatine increases blood pressure, but also a lot of stuff saying this hasn't ever been proven. I know that any energy supplement is likely too as well - but I can usually drink full throttle, amp, etc, and still feel fine while being active. The doctors haven't been able to give me any solid answers on this sort of thing either, though, so if anyone has some actual experience and could help shed some light on things for me, I would appreciate it.

    I know cardio should help me lower my heart rate, but I also know that doing cardio means smaller weight gains. Is there a happy medium?
     
  2. Sgt. Dignam

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    you got 2 parts in this thread. Ill do my best to address both

    1. If you had just recently started to workout, which means that you fall into the Noob category for now, is that you should only be concerning yourself with the essentials. That I mean a good protein supplement. ON you have there is a reliable source which also provides a decent amount of aminos. Secondly, your multi source. NOW vit. is good. Lastly, your fish oils, omega 3 and 6, etc, etc. yes take those thats good brain food and good for the joints as well.

    Stay away from the creatine (for now) and the AMP. As to why, you really don't need it. You're going to see some decent noob gains over the next few months, take it a year or so from now where it will be more beneficial for you.

    Just make sure that your diet is in order and you're eating properly, getting the proper post nutrients your body needs, recovery time and what not and you'll be fine.

    Now, on to your other part of your post....

    I'm not a doctor so take this for what you want.

    if you have asked them if your conitinuing in working out will have any negative effects on your condition as it stands right now and they ok'd it then you should be "ok". On the other hand I'd stay away from all those energy supplements or boosters, etc. coffee and any source of caffeine. In the meantime take some Arginine, apple cider vinegar helps, garlic, and your flax seed oils that you'll be taking as well.

    for your cardio sessions, take it lightly. It won't have an adverse effect on you "gaining' if you just use it to warm up and cool down afterwards. You don't ahve to go crazy.

    Hope this helps.
     
  3. Cthalupa

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    Skip the creatine and AMP for now? Alright.


    Will do. Thing with cardio is that I don't know if I should do it just for warming up and cooling down, or be a bit more active in it to try and get my heart rate down :o


    Thanks for the advice
     
  4. apman0000

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    i have no idea why you wouldn't take the protein, creatine, and vitamins. Doesnt matter if you're just starting out or not, creatine will still help out.

    don't event think of taking a metabolisim booster with heart questions though
     
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    I was kind of thinking the amp would be a no go with the heart issue, but was hoping someone would say "Nah, it should be fine!" :o

    On a side note, anyone ever use any of the nootropics stuff? I remember it getting recommended by an OTer in some thread on the main boards, and have heard good things about it elsewhere, but I haven't really been able to find any actual research on whether or not it works. The piracetam powder is pretty cheap, though, so I might give it a try.
     
  6. TZ

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    everything sounds good except the amp? thats jsut unneccessary imo. i dont think you want to rely on some stimulant/caffeine type product to do routine workouts especially since ur just starting to work out but thats just me
     
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    There are many things that COULD influence your blood pressure such as sodium.
    There are people who respond to dietary sodium and some who do not. Avoid it as much as you can during a week, get your blood pressure before doing this and then just before eating more regularly. If there's a positive difference, then you might want to avoid that.

    As for the high heart rate... Don't ditch cardio. It'll lower your resting heart rate once you get better.
    And please... continue to ask your doctor/specialist. They're getting a nice paycheck, make them earn it.
     
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