GUN sucks for any of you that live in mississippi

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  1. t1h

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    http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/documents/2008/html/SB/2200-2299/SB2286IN.htm

    MISSISSIPPI LEGISLATURE

    2008 Regular Session

    To: Judiciary, Division B; Appropriations

    By: Senator(s) Jordan, Jackson (11th), Dawkins, Powell
    Senate Bill 2286

    AN ACT RELATING TO FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION REQUIRING THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY TO ESTABLISH A STATEWIDE DATABASE TO TRACK CODED AMMUNITION MANUFACTURED AND SOLD FOR HANDGUNS AND ASSAULT RIFLES; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES.

    BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI:

    SECTION 1. (1) For purposes of this section, "coded ammunition" means a bullet carrying a unique identifier that has been applied by etching onto the base of the bullet projectile.

    (2) (a) All handgun and assault weapon ammunition manufactured or sold in the state after July 1, 2008, shall be coded by the manufacturer.

    (b) No later than January 1, 2010, all noncoded ammunition, whether owned by private citizens or retail outlets, must be disposed.

    (3) (a) The Department of Public Safety shall be responsible for establishing and maintaining an Ammunition Coding System Database (ACSD) containing the following information:

    (i) Register with the Department of Public Safety in a manner prescribed by the department through rule; and maintain records on the business premises for a period of seven (7) years concerning all sales, loans and transfers of ammunition, to, from, or within the state.

    (ii) Register with the Department of Public Safety in a manner prescribed by the department through rule; and record the following information in a format prescribed by the Department of Public Safety:

    1. The date of the transaction.

    2. The name of the transferee.

    3. The purchaser's driver's license number or other government issued identification card number.

    4. The date of birth of the purchaser.

    5. The unique identifier of all handgun ammunition or bullets transferred.

    6. All other information prescribed by the Department of Public Safety.

    Vendors shall also maintain records on the business premises for a period of three (3) years from the date of the recorded purchase.

    (b) To the greatest extent possible or practical, the ACSD shall be built within the framework of existing firearms databases. The ACSD shall be operational no later than July 1, 2008.

    (c) Privacy of individuals is of the utmost importance. Access to information in the ACSD is reserved for key law enforcement personnel and to be released only in connection with a criminal investigation.

    (4) (a) Any vendor that willfully fails to comply with, or falsifies the records required to be kept by this section, is guilty of a public offense punishable by imprisonment not to exceed one (1) year and a fine of One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00).

    (b) Any manufacturer that fails to comply with the provisions of this section shall be liable for a civil fine of not more than One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00) for a first violation, not more than Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00) for a second violation, and not more than Ten Thousand Dollars ($10,000.00) for a third or subsequent violation.

    (c) Any person who willfully destroys, obliterates or otherwise renders unreadable the serialization required pursuant to this bill on any bullet or assembled ammunition is punishable by imprisonment not to exceed one (1) year and a fine of One Thousand Dollars ($1,000.00).

    (5) (a) Establishing and maintaining the ACSD shall be funded by an end-user fee established by the Commissioner of Public Safety.

    (b) There is hereby established the Coded Ammunition Fund for deposit of the end-user fees described in this section. Monies in the fund, upon appropriation, shall be available to the Department of Public Safety for infrastructure, implementation, operational, enforcement and future development costs of this section.

    (c) Ammunition manufacturers based within this state may submit a one-time tax credit application for cost of purchasing ammunition coding equipment. All applications must be submitted by July 1, 2009.

    SECTION 2. This act shall take effect and be in force from and after July 1, 2008.
     
  2. Dumbstixlars

    Dumbstixlars Ron Paul/AR-15/Glock/old car/Scooby/R/C croo OT Supporter

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    They passed it? :ugh:
     
  3. Didact

    Didact I have no idea what I'm doing

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    Isn't this the same thing they tried to pass in CA?
     
  4. Didact

    Didact I have no idea what I'm doing

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    Standby, I'll be massing ammo at the state line. :rofl:
     
  5. t1h

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    i think its still just a bill that hasn't been acted upon yet
     
  6. t1h

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    its only for hand guns and assault weapons though. so if i lived there i'd be ok with my hakim and garand :mamoru:
     
  7. smartypants

    smartypants New Member

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    Mississippians are fucked anyway.
     
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    Soybomb New Member

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    Its quite an organized push the anti's are making with the ammo serialization.
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    yes, and it's very scary.

    And when I buy ammo it's generally 500 to 1000 rounds at at time... I highly doubt that it's reasonable to require them to write down every serial number of every bullet I buy :hsugh:
     
  10. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    What about surplus ammo?...
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    according to the bill it must be used/destroyed by 2010.
     
  12. xpinchx

    xpinchx hes got a nice cock, on the thin side but its stil

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    I still don't understand why so many people are anti-gun. It just doesn't make sense, I wish I could just explain it to them and they would understand. :hs:
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    they forget why/how we were founded.

    1) Violence was neccessary. Guns were neccessary. They will continue to be neccessary to maintain our rights. Furthermore, you can't rely on the "government" to protect you... We had to revolt in the past. Oppression starts with removal of weapons.

    2) Just because they do not personally feel compelled to exercise their rights doesn't mean that right is any less important for someone else. Last I checked, the gov's job was to PROTECT rights for the minority regardless of what the majority wanted.
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    So as far as Mississippi goes what is the legal definition of an Assault weapon? 7.62 and 5.56? Time to switch from AR-15s to AR-10s
     
  15. Milky

    Milky I'm in your Millenium Falcon, rumbling your Wookie

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    I really doubt that it will pass

    Hell we also have bills in right now to legalize open and concealed carry without a permit and legalizing carrying on school grounds.

    I hope these end up passing, though.
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    um, an AR-10 is 7.62....
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    True, when I said 7.62 I was referring to ak 7.62 x 39 the round that falls between rifle and pistol not NATO 308 7.62 x 51
     
  18. Milky

    Milky I'm in your Millenium Falcon, rumbling your Wookie

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    I also don't think MS has defined "assault weapon" but I guess they must have.
     
  19. Paul Revere

    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    :rofl: just assault rifles? how many calibers can you get an AR15 in, anybody?
     
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    Yes, that's where things get tricky.... In Cali they define an assault weapon by features of the gun -- not by it's cal...

    So now dealing down with a cal-specific level, it's hard to define what is and isn't for an "assault weapon".

    For example, an AR-10 or FAL are 7.62x51mm.... So they are likely to require serialization of that round... But most people use .308win which is not the same, but similar to and compatible with rifles chambered in 7.62x51mm. So are they going to require serialization of the .308win? And if they do, what about all the people that use it in bolt-actions for hunting? A bolt-action would not meet the "standard" definition of an assault-weapon, yet .308win is a VERY common chambering for that type of rifle.

    Likewise, .22LR is not likely to be considered as an "assault weapon" type round.... Yet .22LR conversions are common.

    Mississippi is just being stupid, imo.
     
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    There's an act like this that was introduced in TN as well. It'll never make it out of committee :o
     
  22. Didact

    Didact I have no idea what I'm doing

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    What was that quote in Shooter? TN is the patron saint of firearms?
     
  23. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    Doesnt MS issue CHL permits with just an application? I am only gonna be here for a couple more years anyway
     
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    "Welcome to Tennessee, patron state of shooting stuff"
     
  25. Want2race

    Want2race Fearless

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    why dont we just set up a govt office that sells serialized ammo and be done with it.. fuckin A man...
     

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