A&P Strobist : Rigs : Dragan : HDR : Rice Angles : Selective Color... (rant)

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  1. Jonny Chimpo

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    Ok, ENOUGH with the damn fads. People, just concentrate on taking a good, solid, photo without all the gimmicks. Please?

    I don't mean this as some measurebating/purist/anti-photoshop bullshit rant. I mean this as: Understand BASIC guides for composition, color, and exposure BEFORE you try to add some crappy and poorly understood gimmick technique into the mix to make a shitty photo look "arty".

    Put some thought into what you want to shoot and what you want the end result to look like before you even pick up the damn camera. And if you post a C&C thread that gets a lot of :io: then you took some snapshots and no one has anything constructive to contribute.

    Noobs, pay attention: If you look at a picture you've taken and your first thought is "ugh, boring. I could save it by doing ________" Just delete it and move on.

    kthx.
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    dude, the angles add DYNAMICS !
     
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    It an Adaptive OD trademark! :mamoru:
     
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    JC I haven't seen you post any pictures in forever... I don't even know what you shoot.
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    volkswagons, no ?
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    you can make any scene uphill or downhill
     
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    Cars.

    I've been in a creative slump lately because of some personal stuff going on. That's why I'm online so much and not outside. Fucking sucks, I hate it. :hs:
     
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    No, Pelf has that covered.
     
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    Maybe you need more :strobist: to get out of your slump. :noes:

    On a serious note, I agree. All the noobs need to learn the basics...I am not a jack of all trades, but I am definitely looking for new ways to expand my photo "tool kit".
     
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    I'm depressed because I don't understand strobisting.
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    not to discount the great educational resource the strobist community is and some of the great work it produces, but...

    just buying equipment doesn't make you better

    learn the basics, then learn why having the right tools can make the images you've envisioned easier to execute and sometimes look better in the end
     
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    Cheap way to always have good light for your pictures...its kind hard to use several strobes when trying to capture a moving car. However it is very useful to have even natural looking light, at say a party, or wedding reception. I am not going to fork out a shit ton of cash to have some Alien bees with me, when I can get nearly the same results with 2 flashes and one umbrella.
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    using umbrellas outdoors takes bravery or poorly paid assistants
     
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    I know. :mamoru: I have a hot German girl moving in with me on Friday. I am hoping I can get her to be my assistant. :o
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    alien bees don't cost a lot of money, but they are far from being the end all be-all of monobloc strobes
     
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    dawt.

    strobist.com has a TON of great information on it, but just sticking a flash on a stick isn't all there is to it. Learning the theory behind WHY the strobist stuff works >>>>>>>> buying flashes and stands.

    The HDR stuff is even worse, (and a personal pet peeve) with people just stuffing crap into Photomatix and expecting art out of it without even understanding WHY one would want to use HDR and what HDR is actually doing in the first place.
     
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    sorry, that was sarcasm.
     
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    I use 30lb sandbags. :dunno:
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    while people hate to actually read, do math and learn technical details

    some concepts such as ambient exposure, flash exposure, combined exposure, flash duration, flash sync speed, color temperature, subject-source relativism, contrast ratios etc are all important if you want to understand "strobist"
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    umbrellas are still far from ideal for outdoor use
     
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    hash browns lolcathlon champion OT Supporter

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    and regarding math, generally all you have to know is how to multiply or divide by two ...
     
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    BAH! What could go wrong with having a 40" umbrella open 10' in the air. :rofl:
     
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    erotic pie are not good math :(
     
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    I'm gonna have to agree. Don't rely on anything but yourself to take a good photo.

    All you need is a decent camera and a tripod.
     
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    I wouldn't say that at all. You need the right tool for the job, but you need to know WHY you need that tool, and you need to understand how to use the tool properly.

    For some shots, you simply must have lighting gear, or a rig, or scrims or reflectors, or flags, or super tele lenses, or filters or....whatever. And sometimes to get the look you INTEND to get, you need to do a lot of work in post. Doesn't make it wrong or bad, it just means you know when to use a tool and why.
     

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