Started my ECY Stack

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  1. PianoProdigy

    PianoProdigy Better than most at most things OT Supporter

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    Over the last week, I think I've read every thread on the topic in F&N. I went to Walgreens last night just to grab some caffeine (I take a 200 mg capsule twice daily for energy), and while I was there, I looked for the Bronkaid and picked some up. My twice-daily supplement stack looks like this:

    Ester-C (1,000 mg)
    Fish Oil (2 capsules)
    Caffeine (200 mg)
    Green Tea Extract (250 mg?)
    L-Carnitine (500 mg)
    L-Arginine (500 mg)
    Men's Multi-V (Vitamin Shoppe)

    Before the gym last night at 8 pm, I ate dinner (500 calories, 23g fat, 22g carbs, 44g protein) and took those supplements plus one tab of Bronkaid (25 mg E). I have a pretty good tolerance to caffeine since I already take around 400 mg daily and also drink 2-3 diet sodas throughout the day, but I felt very energized at the gym. Not sure if it was just the placebo effect, but I felt great. Kept my workout much more intense than normal. I've decided to start doing weighted ab workouts before each workout as I know my abs need work regardless of how lean I may get. If I don't do them first, I'll be too tired and skip them at the end of my workout.

    I typically workout 6 days a week with the rotation being Chest/Biceps, Back/Triceps, Shoulders/Legs then repeat. In experimenting with various workouts, I've found this to be most effective in gaining strength and size. I also started taking 5 mg of creatine mono with 16 oz of Gatorade about a week ago after my workouts. Can't really tell if it does anything, but it can't hurt I suppose. I followed the instructions to a "T" when taking CellTech Hardcore for about 6 weeks and noticed no difference. I was given two sealed subs of this Biotech German Creatine by a friend, so I figured I'd give it a try again. While taking CellTech I was only lifting 4 days/week instead of the 6 days/week I do now, so it won't be a true A/B comparison, oh well.

    I've been doing no cardio at all, but after doing quite a bit of reading, I've decided to do at least 10 minutes of hard interval training in the morning on an empty stomach after taking the CY. I started with only 2.5 mg of Y this morning around 8 am and didn't really notice it at all. My heart rate stayed a bit more elevated than normal it seems, but no sickness or anything, so I'll up it to 5 mg tomorrow morning with cardio.

    I'm going to do EC (25/200 mg) around 12:30 with lunch and depending on how I feel around 5-6 pm, I may take another dosage. Going to a Disturbed/Slipknot concert tonight, so it might be fun to have a bit more energy. :mamoru:

    Anyways, here's a picture of what I looked like this morning with my shitty camera phone. It's kinda ironic that FusionZ06 (bro) has a D300 with a phenomenal lense, yet I take pictures using POS Treo.

    I took measurements as well to help assess the progress. I'm basically hoping to maintain/gain strength/size while leaning out my midsection and trying to develop some abs in the process. I'll take another picture at the end of August to compare.

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    cool

    but make a log
     
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  5. PianoProdigy

    PianoProdigy Better than most at most things OT Supporter

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    Well, I started on the stack one week ago, and I can definitely tell a difference already. The pictures aren't exactly a fair A/B comparison as I had just finished working out in this new picture, but I'm definitely noticeably leaner only a week later. My diet hasn't even been that phenomenal. I've been doing 10 minutes of HIIT on an empty stomach after taking 7.5 mg Y and 200 mg C. Then 25 mg E + 200 mg C twice daily.

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    I don't take EC when I run.

    Heart rate gets too high.

    Some other people do the same around here.
     
  7. PianoProdigy

    PianoProdigy Better than most at most things OT Supporter

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    I wake up about 30 mins early and pop the YC as described then run 30-60 minutes later with my heart rate monitor on. I sprint til my heart rate reaches 170 then walk til it goes down to 140 then sprint again til 170 and so on. I do this for about 10 minutes in the morning.
     
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    Formz Hipster Santa OT Supporter

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    I wish Y agreed with me. But its an instant puke-fest as soon as it hits my stomach.
     
  9. Ceaze

    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    I've taken 30mg of yohimbine with no ill side effects
     
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    I take 10mg yohimbine in the a.m. with 200mg caffeine.

    i work out about 4-5 hours after that and take 25mg ephedrine and another 200mg caffeine.

    and thats it.

    i dont take it post work out because im afraid ill have trouble sleeping and i dont see a point.

    nothing substitutes diet though.
     
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    PianoProdigy Better than most at most things OT Supporter

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    All at once? I think I'm going to bump it to 10mg tomorrow for the rest of this week.
     
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    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    yeah
     
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    Formz Hipster Santa OT Supporter

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    I wish I could. Any amount and I puke within 10 minutes.
     
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    I take 20mg of Y all at once, every morning and haven't seen any good or bad effects from it... in fact, I haven't noticed any change at all... I guess I'll up it to 25 and try that. I've been taking it for a week now. I take it at 6am, go to the gym, don't eat till 9:30am... so no food intake is killing it either.
     
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    Try starting with 2.5mg.....but.....take it intra nasally. I bet you'll be surprised. All the stim benefits, none of the stomach sides.
     
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    are you taking caffeine with it?
     
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    i snort my ephedrine.
     
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    I think ephedrine helps people cut weight in ways, that nobody would even think about.
     
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    PianoProdigy Better than most at most things OT Supporter

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    It really seems to be working for me. My diet has been decent this last week but hardly spectacular and I can see and feel results (took measurements too just to make sure my eyes weren't fooling me). Interestingly enough, after the first time I took the EC and felt the energy boost, I don't really notice much difference in terms of energy (prob just placebo effect the first time). Last night I took 200 mg C and 25 mg E about 8:45 and had no problem going to sleep around midnight.
     
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    007 Riden, sliden, whipin and dippin, my chrome strips

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    I think it opening up your lungs, helps people with sleep apnea sleep better.
     
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    I wish 1fast still shipped Yohimbine to Canada!

    anywhere else besides bulk nutrition that has Y?
     
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    I think I'll pass.
     
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    el es dee ...through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain.

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