Squat racks w/bars. Do you guys trust them to FAIL on?

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  1. Patrick Bateman

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    Basically my question is this. I used to train with a spotter, not so much anymore, I want to start going heavier again for squats than I currently do. Yesterday I was getting up there....I put the bars you see below right under parallel so if I were to bail they would be there....Do you guys trust this? Is it more or less safe? Does anyone practice this to failure every leg workout? Are there any real dangers to doing this? at some points with lighter weight i would actually "tap" the bars, pause, then raise if you know what I mean.


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    I've dropped 500+ on them and never had any problems.
     
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    I trust them as I put those bars across everytime at parallel. The EFS rack I use to use had those bars plus another steel tube/pipe that went over them for added sturdiness.
     
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    I guess this is a dumb fucking question but I can honestly say I've NEVER seen people actively using the safety bars to bail on, so I've always been like "Hmm...that must not be a safe practice."

    Im going to start maxxing shit out like a motherfucker. Ross. Mi-yayo. We making movies. Dade county.
     
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    i put 'em below parallel so that the bar doesn't touch until i fail

    but yeah, people do pin pulls off of 'em all the time, so strength of bars shouldn't be an issue
     
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    another problem I guess is if im only Half way up, but then I guess i could just sit back down with it. Sometimes youre just stuck though and have to fucking toss that bitch over your head, I did that once with no rack and boy was I scared.
     
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    I tap the bars with lighter sets too to get the feel of the full ROM too.
     
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    toss it over your head?

    do you mean drop it behind you?
     
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    Ive been "pinned" two times. Each time my natural reflex was to chuck it over my head. I dont know why, I dont know if my stance is more forward/quad-friendly rather than back/ham-friendly so it was just natural. I really cant answer that. My first reaction was to duck my head and throw it over. Im sure some people will chime in with the same response and know what I mean when you just physically cant toss it off your back.
     
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    Ive done that too dunny, but when the bars are there, they catch all 1,000lbs
     
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    yeah, i've been there, too... stuck at the bottom or stuck half-way up

    i've pushed the weight over my head, but that gets tough with the pins lower than parallel... next time, just try to let the weight fall off your back
    makes a lot of noise, but it's a lot easier than touching down and trying to worm out from underneath... or trying to chuck the weight over your head without braining yourself
     
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    beef caaaaaake!
     
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    :werd: thanks guys
     
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    I just let it roll off my back.
     
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    I have only failed during squats 5 times. 3 of those were during max's. FWIW, I fail on other lifts a lot more.....but I hardly ever go all the way to the point of failure on squats
     
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    I bail it off my back when I fail, but I only had like 225 on there due to the fact i'm a girl
     
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    those bars can handle several thousand pounds of force each
     
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    :rofl: holy shit I've always been scared of that happening

    Part of the reason why I switched over to front squats.
     
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    I've dumped 655 on the pins before and was fine.
     
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    I'd never throw it forwards. If you don't duck and move back fast enough that's going right into the back of your head.

    I'd throw it backwards... nothing to hit there
     
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    i wouldn't advise completely dumping the bar, but if it comes down to your personal safety/injury over the bars...well the bars are gonna get it.
     
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    Back in high school football I had a buddy who did this when he was squatting 250ish and he didn't throw it far enough - It hit the back of his head, pinned down his neck and he went face first into the ground with 250pounds behind him.
    They were big rubbery weights and he went to the hospital but he was fine :mamoru:...his neck hurt for weeks though.

    The school got those safety bars after and enforced having a "spotter" much more.

    I'd never want to do that with real iron, on a hard surface. Seriously sounds like he coulda killed himself if that was the case.
     
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    The gym I work at has a rack like this that s easily 15 years old. Opi (if you remember him) and myself have failed on it a few times at pretty high weights, no problem at all.
     
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    If I ever need to dump weight, I just go down low and let it slide off my back, yelling at people behind me to watch out.
     
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    You dont even have to move the bar, you just have to learn let go of it and roll forward out of the cage. I have dropped heavy weight on mine tons of times.
     
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