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  1. 2000GT

    2000GT Active Member

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    At the gym today I had one of the staff (mid 50's sprinter who ran in the olympics for Canada and has run on the National team for many years) spot me on my squats.

    Anyway, he told me I am dropping way too low and though dropping low may take pressure of the knees on the way down, he said on the way up I am putting unecessary pressure on my knees starting the squat from so low. He said I am not really benefiting from dropping so low on my squats unless I was a competitive olympic lifter and I had to catch my cleans so low.

    He knows I play a lot of sports and really train in the gym to create speed and power to use functionally in my respective sports. He had me squat to parrallel and it truly felt awkard. Not only did it feel awkard, but the total weight I was using felt too heavy for the rep range.

    He is the first person to tell me to drop less and I am not sure if his old school training methods are dated or not. Is there anything online that anyone has to prove his advice true or false?
     
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    I have also heard that going below paralell is bad for your knees, but since I don't play many sports and haven't had knee problems I do it occasionally.
     
  3. 2000GT

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    Also, never had a knee problem to date. I have 3 bulged discs from an injury a couple years back, but doesn't bother me at all anymore.
     
  4. Ceaze

    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    i think people should use both
     
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    Like you 2000GT, I've heard both sides.
    One side I've actually read that stopping at parallel causes more knee damage than going full... obviously heard the opposite as well.
     
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    C4 OT OG Aussie #1

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    my knees hurt either way so fuckit who cares :o
     
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    y1997 Made in the U.S.S.R.

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    I usually do my main heavy squat set parallel, and at the end of my workout I do a few burnout sets (10-20) oly style.
     
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    Last week I did in giant set style...

    front squats (ATG)
    oly squats (ATG)
    parallel squats
     
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    i have tons of problems with my knees and have for over a decade so my squats have been pretty much 1/2 squats because if i go near parrallel they hurt like hell.
    but if your knees don't hurt and you've been doing squats the same way over time then it probably doesn't matter much for your knees and you can get away with doing real squats.
    or my thinking that way is how i fucked my knees up in the 1st place,,,,,,hmmmm shit i guess i don't know
     
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    I can't seem to find information online that could explain to me when to use parrallel and when to use ATG.
    You usually have great articles or at least some direction in where I could find this information, do you have anything on squat depth?
     
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    yeah i have absolutely never felt anything in my knees while squatting except for when i first started doing them and thats because i was doing them wrong. dudes need to learn to load the glutes/hams.
     
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    I guess another question to ask in regards to the same topic is which method will benefit me more for running sports (ie rugby and football).
    Does the extra drop in ATG help or hinder power and speed, regardless of injury.
     
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    same here
     
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    I think it feels to wierd trying to stop before I go down as far as I can.
     
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    Bump.

    http://www.mindandmuscle.net/mindandmuscle/magpage.php?issueID=43&artID=68

     
  16. Ceaze

    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    That's from the same guy that wrote:

    The key to shoulder joint preservation during the bench press is technique and tempo. The wrists need to be neutral while gripping the bar. The bar should be directly over the wrist joint, not behind it. During the pressing motion, keep the bar inline with the shoulders. For example, the bar should make a straight line and be directly over the shoulders during the entire set. If you do this correctly, the bar should touch down at the Sternoclavicular joint (where the collar bone meets the sternum). From an overhead view, the bar, wrists, elbows, and shoulder should all be in the same plane of motion.
     
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    that sounds like the absolute opposite thing to do.
     
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    that seems really high to be touching the bar
     
  19. Grouch

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    I hate doing parallel squats. Those hurt my knees more than deep ones.
     
  20. Ceaze

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    it is, lol
     
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    Good info in here.
     
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    neither of them really hurt my knees

    i just like parallel better so i can lift more weights :p
     
  23. 2000GT

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    ...and I am much weaker parallel!

    Gonna stick to ATG or close too.


    (timber, thanks for the link)
     
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