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  1. James Hook

    James Hook Never trust a government that doesn't trust its ow

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    Found this on another forum
    Ruger 10/22 for sale

    "It is a .22 caliber if you didnt know. What people usually consider the Ruger 10/22 is a low power gun. However, this gun will infact shoot 1 1/2 miles easy. It is not a toy and has been handled with upmost respect and care. It has failed me when I first bought it simply because the magazine was a peice of crap. I have a new one and have put ~1000 through it without a single problem. Simmons 3-9X50 Blazer Scope. It is a great model, pretty light weight, and infact i have a Pellet rifle that kicks harder than this gun. It is alot of fun, but still not a toy. Buyer must be 18+ years of age, and if I feel you are a complete idiot... the gun will NOT be sold to you. Price for the Ruger is $250 obo. Buy this week and get a Smith and Wesson Airsoft pistol with two magazines. *Accepting Trades*"
     
  2. SNDP

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    Omitted the fact it is magical?
     
  3. Paul Revere

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    the fact i got mine for $213 out the door?
     
  4. Paul Revere

    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    only if its not a sigma model
     
  5. James Hook

    James Hook Never trust a government that doesn't trust its ow

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    Well it is the stainless. :o
     
  6. The horrid grammar?
     
  7. larskyle

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    that jumped out at me
     
  8. .22lr is usually considered dangerous up to 1.5 miles, so I guess the guy is correct when he says it will shoot that far.
     
  9. James Hook

    James Hook Never trust a government that doesn't trust its ow

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    I would suck your dick if you hit a china's great wall from a mile and a half with that. Quote it.
     
  10. Neither I nor that guy said that anyone could fire with accuracy at that distance, I was just pointing out that a .22lr is capable of firing that far.
     
  11. James Hook

    James Hook Never trust a government that doesn't trust its ow

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    I know this, but it's just a statement. Or a challenge. :squint:
     
  12. Keesh

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    brb, going to Mongolia.
     
  13. James Hook

    James Hook Never trust a government that doesn't trust its ow

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    Well find the longest straitest section of the wall. Stand on one end and shoot down the walls lenght at a 45 degree angle up into the air. Fire for effect. I think you could get a hit in there somewhere at that distance.
     
  15. Admitted

    Admitted I shouldn't be on OT right now.

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    "It has failed me when I first bought it simply because the magazine was a peice of crap."

    You never admit anything you are selling has failed you for an extraneous reason, just to arouse suspension in the buyers mind. Why even mention it if it was unrelated to how the gun functioned?
     
  16. idleprocess

    idleprocess Bring a dollar with you baby in the cold cold grou

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    Rumor has it that thanks to atmospheric drag, shooting a small ballistic projectile like a bullet at about 20 degrees elevation maximizes range. 45 degrees would be optimal in a vacuum.

    Still think that a .22LR is going to have trouble traveling 1.5 miles.
     
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    take it for what it's worth:

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  18. acoop101

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    i think that's just legal ass covering.
     
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    It'd be neat to see the actual math on it but my very bad math says that without drag etc a bullet (lets say minimags at 1200 fps) fired level from shoulder height would be falling for .20 seconds, a 15 degree angle leaves it in flight for 19 seconds, and 45 degrees would keep it up for 37 seconds. I'm sure the real result is nothing like this but it shows the huge difference a little angle might make.
     
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    Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that they can travel a mile and a half. Some of those stingers push 1600+ FPS too. .22LR does lose quite a bit of velocity but just because it's such a small round but you're right, angles to make a big difference
     
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    as I said, take it for what it's worth. I wouldn't feel comfortable shooting it angled up into an area someone could be.
     
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    I don't know if my figures were correct, but this is what it gave me:

    JBM Maximum Distance Output
    Input Data
    Manufacturer: Barnes Description: 0.224 dia. 36 gr. Varmint Grenade
    Muzzle Velocity: 1600.0 ft/s
    Temperature: 59.00 °F Pressure: 29.92 in Hg
    Humidity: 0.0 % Altitude: 0 ft
    Std. Atmosphere at Altitude: No Corrected Pressure: Yes
    Calculated Parameters
    Atmospheric Density: 0.07647 lbs/ft³ Speed of Sound: 1116.5 ft/s
    Initial Angle: 30.0 deg Terminal Angle: 64.7 deg
    Terminal Range: 2013.3 yds Terminal Velocity: 266.0 ft/s
    Terminal Time: 19.262 s Terminal Energy: 5.7 ft•lbs

    12 Jun 2008 23:43:53, JBM [http://www.eskimo.com/~jbm]


    so 2013.3 yards would be 6039.9 feet... That's 1.14392045 miles. Maybe 1.5 miles is "covering their ass" but maybe under diff conditions it can go that far. Either way, it's definitely over a mile.
     
  23. PanzerAce

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    Why IA of 30? 45 is where you would get the theoretical maximum.
     
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  25. idleprocess

    idleprocess Bring a dollar with you baby in the cold cold grou

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    I don't remember where I heard that 20 degree figure, but it's sticking in my head. Perhaps that's a maximum useful range figure with greater elevations achieving greater range at the expense of oblique impact vectors and nearly-useless terminal velocities.
     

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