GUN Space Station Crew Can Access Gun

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  1. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Space Station Crew Can Access Gun
    http://www.wesh.com/news/15298911/detail.html
    POSTED: 6:16 am EST February 14, 2008
    UPDATED: 3:21 pm EST February 14, 2008

    CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -- Astronauts aboard the International Space Station apparently have access to a gun.

    Russian Cosmonauts carry a gun on their Soyuz space capsule, which is attached to the space station.

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    Every spacecraft carries survival gear for crash landings, and the Russian Soyuz has a kit that includes the gun.

    A photo of a space tourist using one version of the weapon is posted on his Web site.

    But although the gun has been there for as long as the space station has been in orbit, its existence is kept quiet. NASA and Russian officials won't talk publicly about it.

    Former NASA engineer Jim Oberg, who is an author and journalist, wrote about the gun on his Web site. He said the gun has no place in an environment where people are under such high stress.

    "There have been cases of severe psychological strain on people in space, strain that they have taken out -- that their shipmates worried about the ultimate actions," Oberg said.


    Experts said the idea of an astronaut losing control was unthinkable until one year ago, when Lisa Nowak shattered the myth.

    Her own attorney said she was insane when arrested for hunting down another woman, and prosecutors said she was armed.

    Nowak had flown in space just seven months earlier.

    Oberg knows an astronaut bent on orbital manslaughter could simply throw any number of switches to do the job, but he said the crews would be safer if the gun was locked up or left on Earth.


    The gun is located in a survival kit between some seats aboard the Soyuz spacecraft. All the crewmembers know about it, and U.S. astronauts who fly aboard the Soyuz are trained to use it.

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    :ugh: Cops are under alot of stress I don't think they should be allowed to have access to guns either, and what about soldiers? :ugh2:
     
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    Bobula Fairly Useless

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    They obviously have it for protection from aliens
     
  3. Jinkle

    Jinkle Habs/Vikings > *

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    I don't think it will even work at 0 gravity
     
  4. AustinL911

    AustinL911 Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator

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    I'd shoot some towards earth, just because.
     
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    Soybomb New Member

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    Lets drop Jim Oberg in some desolate location where an astronaut might land and let him fend for himself for a few days. Further I find Jim Oberg's financial reserves and excess supply of canned goods dangerous. He must liquidate his stock of both immediately for his own safety.
     
  7. Pineapple Devil

    Pineapple Devil beat it!

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    ive heard it all now

    gun > sabotaging the space station to kill everyone
     
  8. Clingman

    Clingman Clingman runs Bartertown.

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    Didn't Reagan supposedly stop AF plans to equip a satellite with a 20mm cannon?
     
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    P07r0457 New Member

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    I don't see why it wouldn't...
     
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    shiizz0n OT Supporter

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    someone call mythbusters.

    I think it would work.
     
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    I would love to find out what the recoil feels like in 0 g.:noes:
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    I can see a mythbusters episode out of this.

    "well the gun in a plane didn't cause explosive decompression so lets try a space station."
     
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    Clingman Clingman runs Bartertown.

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    Of course it would work...
     
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    And it'd keep on flying, till it hit something amirite?
     
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    shiizz0n OT Supporter

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    or gravity pulls it near a hot gaseous planet or star and it disintegrates.
     
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    :hsugh: and the plane won't take off either, right?
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    Space Cowboys, complete with full auto BAR.
     
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    a gun would even work in a vacuum. The propellant contains its own oxidizer so it could theoretically fire in space, in a complete vacuum.
     
  19. Slick26

    Slick26 Gun|Bike|Cigar|PS3|Beer |Whisky|Night Crew

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    Jesus Christ you guys are nerdy as fuck.
     
  20. Keesh

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    If you can fire a gun underwater you sure as shit can fire one in space.
     
  21. VladTemplar

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    http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2300/2320.htm

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Helv]TOZ TP-82
    [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Helv]The TOZ TP82 is a factory "whippit" side-by-side, double-barreled 12-gauge shotgun engineered for the same purposes than the TO-3106 (private property and personal defence, bodyguard and private security service). It features a detacheable buttstock; fires from a single trigger, which means that barrels can't be fired both toegether.

    [/FONT]The triple-barrelled gun can fire flares, shotgun shells, or rifle bullets, depending on how it’s loaded. The gun and about 10 rounds for each barrel are carried in a triangle-shaped survival canister stowed next to the commander’s couch. The gun’s shoulder stock opens up into a machete for chopping firewood.
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    It's designed for self-defense in case they ended up landing somewhere randomly in Siberia due to an error and they need to defend themselves against beasts of prey of if they need to hunt. The sheer caliber of the bullets would over penetrate and depressurize the cabin. You'd have to be suicidal to do that.

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  22. H.P.

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    guns in outer space :run:
     
  23. TL1000RSquid

    TL1000RSquid ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    :dunno: Russians had an earlier space station in the 70's that had something like a 20mm on it. :cool:
     
  24. VladTemplar

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    Salyut-3 had this gun assembly

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    From Wikipedia:
    From some other website (http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/spaceguns/):
     
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    [DWI] Master of Nothing

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    They always know this, it is an odd time to bring it up. I mean the ruskies are major partners in ISS let them do what they will. Damn this cold war style crap going on recently.
     

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