GUN Someone buy this man a weapon, he earned it.

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  1. JaimeZX

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    Seattle Bank Teller Fired for Chasing, Apprehending Robber
    Saturday, August 01, 2009

    SEATTLE — A Seattle bank teller has lost his job because he ran down a would-be bank robber and held him until police arrived.

    Jim Nicholson, who worked at a Key Bank branch, says he understands the bank's policy that employees comply with robbery demands and avoid dangerous confrontations. But he tells The Seattle Times that his instincts took over when the man demanded money during the Tuesday incident.

    Nicholson says he tried to grab the man, then chased him several blocks before knocking him down with help from a passer-by. The man turned out to be unarmed.

    The 30-year-old Nicholson was fired Thursday. Key Bank officials declined to comment, but Seattle police and the FBI say they advise tellers against acting against robbers. Instead, police Sgt. Sean Whitcomb says, they should be good witnesses and comply with demands unless their personal safety is in jeopardy.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,536061,00.html?test=latestnews
     
  2. Stump

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    I kinda agree with the bank. If he'd been injured or killed pulling this stunt, he was "on the clock" and the bank would be liable for a lot more than was taken.
     
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    its not his money. banks are aware of the risks. theyre prepared to lose money, not an employees life. thats why they have things like exploding packages.
     
  5. JaimeZX

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    :rofl: Exploding packages?
     
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    Why would you chase a guy who was supposedly armed :rofl:
     
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    The ink packs that blow up in your face when you try to handle the loot.
     
  8. Paul Revere

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    it was mark larue in disguise
     
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    dont know the name for them is.. but the ink packets that explode all over the money and whoever is around it... and its like impossible to wash off for a few days/weeks
     
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    Oh. :rofl: That's not what I thought you meant. Yah, got that. :o
     
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    Normally I'm all for personal action, but bank tellers really shouldn't try anything. Not their money, and usually they aren't in any danger. Just doesn't make sense to try anything...
     
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    at the end of they day you get paid the same amount of money as a teller if you're a hero or just following company orders
     
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    SO works at a bank some of the robbery stories are crazy. It's their policy that you're fired if you don't comply with the robbers requests.
     
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    What bank is this? If I ever rob a bank I'll be sure and pick that bank and have crazy requests, line talk with a irish accent and line dance as you hand the money to me.
     
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    Maybe I'm being ignorant here, but isn't some guy coming up to you, sticking a gun in your face/pointing it in your general direction, and demanding things putting your personal safety in jeopardy? Just by the very nature of what an armed robbery is, you are at imminent risk of great bodily injury or death.
     
  17. Joe_Cool

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    :rofl: He means exploding dye packs. Not Jokey Smurf surprises.

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    statistically.. how many people are shot/killed during bank robberies?

    and on that note, the theif was out the door. once he turned and left, no one in the building was in harms way, but instead, he chased after him putting himself in even more danger. ink packets, surveillance cameras and police are there for a reason.

    youre lucky if you make it through an armed robbery alive, and even more lucky if you make it out alive after tangling with the gunman/theif.
     
  19. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    In 2007, there were 5774 bank robberies.

    24 customers, 51 employees, 1 employee family member, and 4 guards were injured. Total 76.
    3 employees and 1 guard were killed. Total 4.
    10 customers, 36 employees, 4 employee family members, and 4 guards were taken hostage. Total 54.

    So in 5774 robberies, there were 134 injuries, deaths, and hostages taken. That's 1/43.

    To me, that's good enough to fight if you feel like it's necessary. Considerably better than your chances of winning $3 in the Powerball lottery (1/62), and slightly lower than your chance of winning SOME prize (1/35).
     
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    I would be upset with the bank if something happened like the robber had a gun and the teller shot him. In this case, however, the robbery suspect had already left the property and the guy followed him. I think he should be commended for catching the guy and getting a bank robber off the street, but at the same time, I'm not upset he was fired.
     
  21. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    :ugh:
     
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    "Lies, damned lies, and statistics"

    How many times did the tellers/patrons fight back? What were the results? Is there an observable correlation between deaths during bank robberies and resistance? During how many specific incidents did the injuries/deaths occur? How many patrons/tellers were NOT injured during bank robberies?



    I agree in general that you should always resist, but with bank robberies, I'm not so sure that is the best course of action.
     
  23. Joe_Cool

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    more like "facts, facts, and damned facts". :hsugh:

    No clue, I wasn't there. You're more than welcome to try to figure it out yourself.

    The info I used is here:
    http://www.fbi.gov/publications/bcs/bcs2007/bank_crime_2007q1.htm
    http://www.fbi.gov/publications/bcs/bcs2007/bank_crime_2007q2.htm
    http://www.fbi.gov/publications/bcs/bcs2007/bank_crime_2007q3.htm
    http://www.fbi.gov/publications/bcs/bcs2007/bank_crime_2007q4.htm

    When somebody points a gun at you and uses threat of violence to demand money, your life is in danger. The point of the statistics was to show that people DO get hurt, killed, and taken hostage. Even if the hostages are never harmed (which I doubt - I'm sure there's overlap in the hurt/killed/hostage numbers), it's still a violent act with the explicit threat of more violence.
     
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    I think you read me wrong. I would be upset with the bank firing him if he shot an armed robber. I didn't mean I would be upset if he shot the guy.
     
  25. Joe_Cool

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    OH. That makes more sense. :rofl:
     

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