soldering wires

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  1. tigerafro

    tigerafro New Member

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    the local audio shop is trying to have me pay 300 for putting in a deck and a componets.

    what goes in to it?

    deck kit-20 bucks
    he said dynamat for the speakers are free
    labor -79.99 and 49.99 for deck
    parts-?


    and the rest? i don't know. i got up to around 230 including tax and the guy said the reason y things were so expensive was because he was going to soldering the wires. wtf. is that really nescessary
     
  2. twistid

    twistid Banged By Super Models Moderator

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    car/location/models???

    solder itself is cheaper, and i believe better(but i'm oldschool)... the wire will break, before the connection will... i can do a solder job faster, than the competing store's installers can crimp here... so it should be a time thing.
     
  3. tigerafro

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    my car is a 95 civic, austin, i don't know what u mean by models. but the guy said, thats y its so expensive? can i get a bullshit?

    can someone give me a DIY link on radio and speakers install?
     
  4. twistid

    twistid Banged By Super Models Moderator

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    models, as in what stereo and comps are you wanting to put in... are you buying the stereo and comps from them, or do you already have them??? we charge double our normal labor charges, if not more for outside work(which we rarely have time for, any outside work to begin with... so it doesn't hurt our feelings if someone walks, over the price.)... depends on the vehicle, and what they want installed... austin is a larger market than i'm in, so they can pull a higher price on labor.

    http://www.installdr.com/InstallDocs/Honda/PDF/466017.pdf
     
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    at my shop,

    deck install $45
    harness $15
    spkr install $80
    spacers for fronts as most are needed for civics $30

    if $300 is including the equip then its a good price. too cheap imo
     
  6. tigerafro

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    are u in austin?
     
  7. GammaRadiation

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    Soldering goes quick with a good iron.
     
  8. deusexaethera

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    It's certainly a better connection, but I for one prefer to build things I can take apart when necessary. If you make it hard to break, you make it hard to fix, after all.
     
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    :gtfo:

    Solder should always be used in stereo harness, and what not. The actually connectors make something easy to remove/service. But in-between, solder is the only way.
     
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  11. deusexaethera

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    Uh...now I'm confused. I thought the question was between using connectors vs. hard-soldering all the connections. I guess I misunderstood.

    But yeah, inside whatever connectors you use, the wires should always be soldered in place.
     
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    I personally dont use the OEM harness at all other than the ignition wire and power wires.
     
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    veonake OnT poster, OT lurker

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    You cut the factory radio harness rather than use an adapter?
     
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    veonake OnT poster, OT lurker

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    No offense, but there's no way you can solder and heatshrink faster than someone can use a standard crimp connector unless that person is retarded. That said, of course a proper soldering job is better.
     
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    yes, but I cut it back where I can solder it back if need be asseiming the stock radio was worth a damn. If it wasnt then there is no need to worry about it. Case: My GF's old toyota (1989) had a casset player and the radio wouldnt get good reception over 100 mHz. I didnt worry about spending the $5 for an adapter because it was not worth it. For her newer (2001) pontiac she had a working radio and casset player so I used an adapter for the power and ignition. In my truck I had a crappy CD player and front speakers that were headed out the door so I just soldered into the harness because even if I do sell it I will put a crappy radio in it for the buyer.
     
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    veonake OnT poster, OT lurker

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    I guess I just don't understand the point of going cheap on a simple adapter that not only saves time, but allows things to go back to stock more easily if the car is going to be sold and allows you to swap head units much more easily.
     
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    $5 and some extra time or free and less extra time. Soldering does not take that long. Sure to go back to stock wih the adapter you jsut have to unplug and then plug in the old CD player but to go back to stock you just have to cut and resolder then plug in. It isnt that much harder or longer.
     
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    probably because i don't use heat shrink, and have a board with my tape precut... and yes i'm faster, but i've been soldering for 18 years. :noes: ohio state, son.
     
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    do work, son!
     
  20. fuzion1029

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    tape over bare wire FTL
     
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    :hsugh: as opposed to taping the wire sheath and leaving the bare metal exposed, eh?
     
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    heatshrink >>>>>>>>> dog shit >>>>>>>>>>>> electrical tape
     
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    i was going to start using heatshrink, back a few years ago... until i undid an install with it done... not quite the best solution, so i stuck with old reliable. :dunno:
     
  24. deusexaethera

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    I paint the soldered connections with that rubber shit used to coat tool handles. I dunno why, but I melt heatshrink every single goddamned time.
     
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    any of you that say using heatshrink > tape have never worked in a daily install environmet before. I'd like to see you do an alarm install in a fast paced day and use heatshrink. you'd get laughed out of the bay.
     

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