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    I am working a lot in the console and I am writing a new application. Overall, I like the "softness" of fonts and text in Linux. 10000000x better. But alas, my hardware is not even close to compatible with Linux, so it's not an option to run it (if it wern't for my hardware, I would be running linux 24-7) So before anyone says "switch to linux". I can't.

    The "crisp" font's in windows are so depressing. Any ideas of a good C++/Java IDE/editor that renders text similar to how Konsole and KDevelop do?

    If you suggest tools that do what I require, and I convert to primarily using them, I will buy you a reasonable item from ThinkGeek or a similar site.
     
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    Linux fonts are all TTF files, aren't they? Just copy them to your Windows box and install them. Anyway, font rendering is done by Windows' standard Text and Rich Text GUI objects, so I doubt you could find an editor that has its own custom textbox control with its own font renderer.

    Have you tried turning on ClearType, by any chance? It helps a lot with Windows fonts, even Courier New looks a lot better with ClearType on.
     
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    yep, ClearType is on. It does absolutely nothing to my console, which is hurting my eyes :(. I am using eclipse to write the application, and it's woefully crisp. I want some anti-aliasing a la KDevelop. Their IDE is so beautiful.
     
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    I downloaded the MS ClearType Tuner PowerToy and it made it a bit better.
     
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    Have you tried a 10 year old CRT? That should soften things right up for ya!
     
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    I can only use LCDs.
     
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    Some butter on the screen then maybe?

    Have you tried the "Standard" font smoothing setting (not ClearType)? IIRC it's the one that used to drive me nuts because it anti-aliased the hell out of the fonts.

    Eclipse is the best IDE I know of outside Visual Studio. You may want to try changing the font to Lucida Console or Consolas (from Vista). They are not as harsh as some of the other fixed fonts.
     
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    reading comprehension > you
     
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    it's not just java... it's also microsoft's command prompt.
     
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    Something I didn't think of before, but have you considered just running Linux in a VM? You can run the VM full screen and that should get you past most of the basic hardware issues, then when you need windows, you can just minimize the VM. As long as you have a decent amount of memory, it should run fairly well.
     
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    Hey Jolly...switch your console font to Lucida Console. The problem is probably that it's using Raster Fonts, which ClearType can't touch.
     
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    One of the hardware limitations is multiple monitors, which VMs don't like.
     
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    was already done.
     
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    That's not soft enough for you? It's a hell of a lot better than Raster Fonts, at any rate.
     
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    yes it is better. still not like Konsole, tho :hs:
     
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    Ah. Well, VMWare workstation 6 (in public beta, btw) will support multi-monitors. Something to keep in mind I down the road. I imagine it will spill over to player at some point too.
     
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    regardless, the point is not to run windows to emulate linux. that's stupid.
     
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    Hey, just offering a suggestion since the harsh windows fonts are apparently melting your delicate little eyes out and all.

    And since this is a whining thread, I'll use this opportunity to argue semantics: It's not emulation, it's virtualization. Big difference in performance.
     
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    Yes there is a big difference... It's much slower than running it natively... which is the point. Bitch.
     
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    You don't even know you just owned yourself, do you?
     
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    virtualization is *not* running it natively. So no, I did not own anyone except you. This thread is not about virtualization, and that is not a valid solution.
     
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    You really should not try to use terminology you don't understand the meaning of.

    I offered an option (since you can't seem to find any other), you were a dick (go fig) so now I'm being a dick. Although it is fun, I admit.
     

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