GUN So this NFA stuff is addicting.

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  1. Painkiller

    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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  2. Painkiller

    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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    Yeah I got my F1 back in 35 days and that was fast to me. :o
     
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    david_4x4 New Member

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    I just bought an M-60. Im still waiting for the gun to be transferred to my dealer so I can get my shit in the mail and on teh way.
     
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    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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    bitch......I messed with a MP5SD today though, neat gun. :o
     
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    So did I:) And a PDW etc etc.:p

    But seriously, .308 is so cheap I figured may as well get the 60.:squint: :hsd:
     
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    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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    Will you buy me a colt RR lower? :x:
     
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    murph38_99 OG Silver Member

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    ok can someone update me, did they change the NFA rules?
     
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    striker754 Chillin

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    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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    shit well I ended up going with a Gemtech Halo. :o
     
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    Better choice. Everything AAC makes is a ripoff of Dader's original designs anyway.

    (paging footrat)
     
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    black box is supposed to be pretty nice. Does gemtech make a comperable one?
     
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    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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    you talking about Philip dater? he posts on Arfcom.
     
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    footratfunkface New Member

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    How so?

    When is the last time that you've seen the insides of any two AAC or Gemtech silencers side by side?

    If you're going to make a statement like that, back it up. I can provide court documents that prove otherwise, because AAC has been to court and won. What can you provide, other than bullshit and scuttlebutt?

    Tell me a single silencer that we currently make that is a "ripoff" of anything Gemtech makes or made.
     
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    I can answer that. No, they don't. No one does. The Black Box's shape is not the unique part. Plenty of silencers have had an asymmetrical design before. It's the insides that are unique. The mount and indexing system are unique. The fact that it is the ONLY hearing safe .45 silencer on the market DRY is unique.
     
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    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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    I'm actually getting the M4-1000 again. :o
     
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    footratfunkface New Member

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    I just built 57 of them today. I'll tell you this: about the first 200 made will actually just be last year's M4-2000's lightened up a touch in the middle of the exterior tube. We have a bunch of the heat-treated inconel blast baffles from the M4-2000 left over, and the M4-1000 is the best way to use them. So, initally, M4-1000 owners will actually be getting an M4-2000, which is a freaking awesome deal, they just don't know it.
     
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    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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    So you work at AAC now? can you get me these shirts? :o
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    7 First comes smiles, then lies. Last is gunfire.

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    I hate you all, I'm so poor :sad2:
     
  19. chakup

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    OK from what I know AAC makes a good product- but please don't become another AAC sackriding monkey. it's so friggin old.

    but- m4-2000 for m4-1000 price you say??
     
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    Painkiller Sometimes remembering is better than forgetting

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    me? :ugh:
     
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    chakup Guest

    no footrat
     
  22. ElChupacabra

    ElChupacabra we should have fucking shotguns

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    I want a Dragonfly so bad I can taste it. But '16 comes before any more cans. Hell, I have 5 .22 cans already.
     
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    Dude, I WORK for AAC. It's hard to ride your own sack.

    What gets old is the tired, worn out, just plain wrong assertion that AAC copies Gemtech products. First off, there are pretty much NO new designs in the way of silencer baffles. With the exception of a small number of cool new things, all the baffle designs in use today have been around for decades, some of them for a century. It's hard to say that anyone is copying anyone when Hiram Maxim came up with this shit forever and a day ago. What IS new is the way that those baffles are employed in the construction of a silencer. The materials and manufacturing processes. The mounting solutions. The integration of a silencer into the design of a rifle. Making silencers quieter, lighter, and smaller all at the same time is hard, but it's being done. It's not being done through copying other companies. If all anyone did was copy, every can would be the same. As it stands, I don't think Gemtech has a single silencer that comes close to being as good as an AAC product in a similar category.

    There is a reason that AAC makes and sells more silencers than almost all other silencer manufacturers combined, including Gemtech. It's not because we copy anything. If you cut apart a particular Ops Inc silencer (I can't remember the number) and a Surefire, THOSE two are almost the same.
     

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