GUN So....The PD registered my dads new shotgun as a pistol v.WTF

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  1. luvitlo94

    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    So my dad picked up a Moss 500 from the gun show. It has a pistol grip, but is OVER 30" overall length. He was wondering about if it needed to be reg. or not as a pistol. I took a tape measure and showed him that it is over 30", you are fine.

    So he decides to take it to the local PD to have them look at it "just in case". He came back a little while later and told me he had it registered as a pistol. :ugh:

    I told him..."fuck it, lets go get the Marlin .444 and the 30-06 registered too, cause thats basically what you just did.

    How the fuck could the PD legally reg. that thing if it IS OVER 30" AND NOT considered a pistol?:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:
     
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    sp00n155 You underestimate the insignificance of my penis OT Supporter

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    pistol grip obviously means pistol. :mamoru:

    what does it matter, anyway?
     
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    gotta do paperwork to FTF transfer pistols in WA but not for rifles/shottys :dunno:
     
  4. luvitlo94

    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    Just the simple fact that they did it, when in all reality they shouldn't have.

    Cops are fucking morons.
     
  5. luvitlo94

    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    Plus now, if he ever wants to sell it, he has to do paper work and shit
     
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    your dad is a dumbass
     
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    afaik, pistol grip ONLY does make it a pistol

    i've seen atf data/documentation but i can't find it so take that for what it's worth.
     
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    JaimeZX Formerly of :Sep 2001: fame - Also: Sprout Crew OT Supporter

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    Registration FTL

    Move to a free state.
     
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    pimpofthenation OT Supporter

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    WTF? What city?

    I have a pistol grip Mossberg... it's NOT a pistol, not registered as such, etc...
     
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    registration :mamoru:
     
  11. Really?
     
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    so you can't put a stock on ever, or what?
     
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    Is there a stock? Then it's a rifle. No stock, it's a pistol.
     
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    spankaveli OT Supporter

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    According to the ATF, you cannot turn a pistol into a rifle. I assume that works with shotguns as well.
     
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    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    I would go to the Atty General's office or at the very least, the state police firearms branch for clarification.

    Your corner cop shop doesn't know shit about firearms laws 99% of the time.
     
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    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    I agree 100%




































    ................sadly :hs:
     
  17. luvitlo94

    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    Roseville...............and the whole thing is that he DIDN"T have to register it. The cop told him to do it "just to be on the safe side". Because the dumbass cop didn't know the law.
     
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    Wrong

    It can have a pistol grip with no stock...........as long as the barrel is over 16", and the overall length is at least 30" (which it is)
     
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    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    I don't need clarification, I know that it doesn't need to be reg. as a pistol.

    I just confused on how the pd was able to register it when it's NOT considered a pistol. Basically it is the same as me walking in w/my 870 Super Mag, full stock, and having them reg. it as a pistol.

    It should have never happened.
     
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    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    No. 6280 FIREARMS LAWS OF MICHIGAN — OPINIONS OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL 186

    Opinion No. 6280
    March 20, 1985
    PISTOLS:
    Firearm fully operable when folded or contracted with length of 30 inches or less as a pistol

    SHORT-BARRELED RIFLE:
    Rifle fully operable with stock folded or contracted as a ‘short-barreled rifle’
    SHORT-BARRELED SHOTGUN:
    Shotgun fully operable with stock folded or contracted as a ‘short-barreled shotgun’
    WEAPONS:
    Firearm fully operable when folded or contracted with length of 30 inches or less as a pistol
    A firearm containing a stock capable of being contracted or folded to an overall length of 30 inches or less and being fully operable
    in such contracted or folded condition is a pistol requiring licensure for purchase, carrying or transport, and is subject to
    safety inspection.

    A rifle with a barrel of at least 16 inches in length and a stock capable of being contracted or folded to an overall length of less
    than 26 inches, being fully operable in such contracted or folded condition, is a ‘short-barreled rifle’ whose sale or possession
    is prohibited.
    A shotgun with a barrel of at least 18 inches in length and a stock capable of being contracted or folded to an overall length
    of less than 26 inches, being fully operable in such contracted or folded condition, is a ‘short-barreled shotgun’ whose sale or
    possession is prohibited.
     
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    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    ^^^^From the Michigan.gov website.

    My dads has a 20" barrel, and is 30 3/4" overall.
     
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    Spout off more BS why don't ya.
     
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    Anytime someone who makes a living enforcing rules that they themselves like to "stay on the safe side of" it makes me want to run in the opposite direction rapidly.
     
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    You're right. I just read what I was trying to find and I was wrong. The ATF told a dealer friend of mine you can't turn a pistol into a rifle then back to a pistol. My mistake.
     

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