I just don't wanna keep dumping an arm and a leg for ammo for plinking. The p22, I hear good things. 22lr is cheap - and I can always get a 22 rifle down the road. It's small, light and could be easily concealed - however it is a 22.... and it just seems a little silly to count on a .22 for any sort of self defense. Does anyone seriously consider it anything other than a toy?