MIL So once again the AF is really pissing me off v.EPR

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  1. FSTMX5

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    ok so ive been in the air force for 2 years this month and my epr is due...trouble is ive been in tech school and casuals my ENTIRE af career and my supervisor (who i havent even met) emailed me like i need some bullets for your EPR....

    ok ..cool so i think of the very few things ive done (seeing as how ive been in tech school and casuals the whole time) and send him some

    he comes back like im gonna need more....i try to bs some more and then he does it again.....well this was a few days ago so i thought everything was fine and he just called me like "ok im gonna need more because right now you are looking at 3's across the board..maybe some 4's


    WTF...how in the fuck are you gonna give me a shitty epr when ive been in school and casuals the whole time AND you havent even met me?!

    jesus christ...4 more years ...4 more years
     
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    its kind of a big deal....it does affect promotions etc


    i dont want my first epr to be subpar simply because i havent done my job yet :ugh:
     
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    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    You get real (for record) performance reports from your future supervisor at your future duty station while you are still in Tech School?! :ugh2:

    what the fuck?
     
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    thekinggovernor OT Supporter

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    what is an average score?
     
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    no im not still at tech school but your first epr is due at your 2 year mark and i was at tech school till december and ive been on casuals here at fort meade since then...i havent even met my supervisor because im not even allowed in the building yet ....but somehow im getting an epr with 3's :ugh:


    as for an average score...if you are a good airman and do your job well you get 5's ...everyone ive talked to that went to DLI and is on casuals here got 5's across the board from their supervisors
     
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    so 5 is if you do a good job, 3 is average?
     
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    thats the *idea*
    but pretty much everyone gets 5's unless you screw up or your sup doesn't like you. Which in turn means even if a 4 rating would be appropriate all the other douches got 5's and leaves you behind
     
  9. evan2

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    lol you should be getting a 3 if you havent done anythign to earn a 4..why should you get a 5...that isnt just for doing good work

    people get firewalls because people feel they have to

    What have you done to earn a 5?

    and if you are getting out then who cares
     
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    so it sounds like the OP is getting the right score.
     
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    how did i screw up ? :ugh: i havent even had a chance to do my job....by no fault of mine

    ive been a good airman, never gotten in trouble, and did well in school (which was my job for the last 2 years basically)

    so why shouldnt i get 5's
     
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    FSTMX5 New Member

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    i still want to make staff by the time i'm done so i can have that on a resume :dunno:
     
  13. evan2

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    Well you dont have enough to fill in an EPR plus with the way the new one is good luck....
    hard to understand your situation but he should be hitting up people who are seeing what you are doing in school not just asking you for bullets

    he should ask people who are over you if he has never met you


    and yes making staff is understandable but a bad first epr isnt going to stop you though hurt you a tad

    just study harder and get better scores...people who know skt inside and out usually own other people

    welcome for the tip
     
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    :hs:
     
  15. evan2

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    hey man thats how it is...all my young troops just think they should get a 5

    they dont understand we cant just give you a 5 and it goes through....my supervisor reads it, the orderly room reads it and the shirt reads it sometimes more

    it comes back to me and a lot of times we have to really justify a 5
     
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    staff in 4 years, fucking af :rofl:
     
  17. evan2

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    Umm I knew a 3 year e5 in the marines...so dur
     
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    What base are you at?? Both my current base (Little Rock), and my previous base (Pope), gave 5's to EVERYONE. Only way you got less than a 5 was if you got an Article 15, or had a stack of LORs.
     
  19. evan2

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    Im at RAF Fairford now and was At Eglin before that..heading who knows where next

    People shouldnt just get firewall 5s, this is the problem with the AF
     
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    what is staff for you guys?
     
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    who said id get staff in 4 years?...im a 6 year so i have 4 years left
     
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    thats understandable but my problem is if im getting hosed ...as i said everyone else on casuals with me in my situation got 5's so its not fair that i shouldnt imho

    it puts me behind and theres no reason i should be
     
  23. evan2

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    E5, learn your ranks...I know yours
     
  24. evan2

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    You can always fight it after the fact plus with the new epr you have to sign it before it goes through
     
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    right on :bigthumb:
     

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