So NOW the UAW wants to make concessions

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  1. Engineering Kid

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    fuck them
     
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    hope they're out on the street soon
     
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    Nemesis_152 I'm a delicate desert flower from Arizona.

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    they've been making concessions for years.
     
  5. Bona Fide

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    Isn't their idea of "concession" just halting the retiree healthcare bullshit?
     
  6. Kriz

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    The UAW was wait for a piece of the pie. They fucked themselves. I'd laugh but for some reason I don't find it as funny as I thought I would.
     
  7. Engineering Kid

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    AHHAHAHAHAH.

    They are willing to give up job security clauses in their contract. Oh fuck, the auto industry is saved now.

    They are willing to give up things they don't have anyways. This isn't even a concession from the UAW.


    And only for 2 of the 3 companies....because they think ford still has enough money to remain liquid long term.
    I work the industry, and I pray that these overpaid monkeys are all out on their asses, even if it cuts my paycheque in half for a few years.
     
  8. Nemesis_152

    Nemesis_152 I'm a delicate desert flower from Arizona.

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    they had both job security clauses (see jobs bank) and retiree health care. what the fuck are you talking about?
     
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    What good is a job security clause when your employer isn't going to be around in 6 weeks.

    What good is a a retirement pension if the corporation isn't around to honor it.
     
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    GM and Chrysler should take a prepackaged bankruptcy so they can tell the UAW to :fawk: May be the only way to lower the pay to reasonable levels for the UAW workers.
     
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    yeah but they're about to lose it when the auto makers go under, dumbass.
     
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    Nemesis_152 I'm a delicate desert flower from Arizona.

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    1) betting on the government bailout
    2) government pension guarantees, brah.
     
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    Nemesis_152 I'm a delicate desert flower from Arizona.

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    no shit, and as part of the bailout loan plan, they are willing to give up certain contractual provisions as a starting point for new negotiations, dumbass.
     
  14. Engineering Kid

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    1) Gov't bailout would still result in massive layoffs so it's a moot point
    2) Gov't guarantees principle on their pensions, but with stock market tanking, their pension fund isn't growing and isn't enough to cover current or future obligations. Yes their principal is covered, but not future obligations.

    Is this really a bold move from the CAW, or them just saying "well shit, I guess we can flex a little, since we are all about to be jobless"

    Too little, too late.

    EDIT...I bet you are a union worker, who failed out of highscool and makes $50/hr. Based purely on your statements in this thread.
     
  15. michelin man

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    someone please tell what the point of a union is these days?
     
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    Because all the right to work legislation and restrictive labor laws aren't enough... Gotta protect ourselves from 'the man'.

    Once a line assembler at chrysler said something like this to me...
    That's what unions are for.
     
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    They made some major concessions in the last contract with GM
     
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    thats what i heard
     
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    UAW/CAW WORST UNION EVER.
     
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    They should have done this 10 years ago. When GM was losing monies
     
  22. JayC71

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    I'll grant you the unemployment line if you concede to lick my sack.
     
  23. camarosrool

    camarosrool yes i am

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    I already said this in another thread

    the UAW will throw the workers under the bus to save their own jobs and paychecks

    they will do everything they can to screw teh employees while padding their own pockets
     
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    All new hires will be paid at a lower rate, and with fewer benefits.

    That's the UAW's big concession.

    Firstly, the big 3 aren't hiring anyone lately...so it has no tangible impact.
    Secondly, it does wonders for the already low morale of any line workers.

    What if you went to work, and the guy in the next room did exactly the same job as you, with the same skill and motivation, but got paid a lot more, and had a plush retirement package. I thought the UAW stood for labor equality. In the 80s, when women started working labor jobs a lot more, the UAW jumped all over the 'Equal work for equal pay' band wagon.

    It's like a home renovation. Your house has bad plumbing, bad wiring, crappy drywall, creaky and warped floors.You have the best lot in the neighborhood, with a fantastic view and good school zone.

    Sure you could fix each piece of your house, bit by bit, and end up with a home that is livable again, at a hefty price.

    Or you could bulldoze the house, rebuild with new construction on the same lot. Still your property, and then you can build up exactly what you want, no compromise.

    Labor relations in the big three need to be bulldozed.
     

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