so my ecy stack landed me in the er (twice) last night - loooong + cliffs

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  1. infinite loop

    infinite loop Statistically speaking, the Yankees do indeed suck

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    cliffs: took ecy stack, heart rate and blood pressure not so good, felt like i was gonna die (stil may die? :noes: ), learned lesson.

    i've been playing around with an ecy stack on and off for several years now. normally, i take it as an energy boost on days i need a lift.

    yesterday, i took 75mg e, 600mg c, and 22mg y, throughout the day. about an hour after my final dose, i noticed my heart rate was getting a tad too high. i let it go and tried not to think about it.. a few minutes went by and i could feel no improvement.

    i measured my "resting" heart rate and was shocked when it came back at 150ish (give or take). i think i worked myself into a mild panic attack at this point because i measured about 10 minutes later and i was at around 200bpm!!

    i asked someone to take me to urgent care. i signed in and stood at the front desk.

    nurse: take a seat, we'll call you soon :squint:
    me: can i see someone? like now? :noes:

    they took me in right then and there and my resting heart rate was varying between 120-160 while i was there, blood pressure was also high at over 140. the doc came in and asked if i was on cocaine or other amphetamines, i told him about the ecy stack.

    he did an ekg and it came back ok, with a heart rate of 100bpm - the doc said while the readings where normal, the 100bpm couldn't be right. he told me he wanted to give me valium to calm me down, but they had run out over the weekend. he then told me that i could either leave with a friend and go to the er for treatment or they could have me leave in an ambulance. i opted to have a friend drive me.

    i got to the er about an hour later and the nurse took my heart rate again.. i was down to 110 (this is approximately 3.5 hours after my last dose).

    they sat me down and i waited in the er waiting room for 2 hours before they called me in. i felt like i had calmed down quite a bit by the time i was pulled into triage. the nurse told me the doc wanted to hook me up to an iv and do another ekg. i asked her to take my pulse before moving forward.. came back at 89. no great, but obviously much better.

    i declined treatment and went home. i still have my ekg with me and i may go back to the er if things get bad. my pulse is still around 86-95 consistently, i also have shortness of breath. i'm gonna run to employee health services in a bit and have my pulse and blood pressure checked, we'll see what they say.

    in the meantime, i've dumped all of my stimulants. i feel like an idiot that this happened to me, considering all the research i've done. all in all, i think i've learned an important lesson, and feel far less involnurable than i did when i woke up yesterday morning (which is probably a good thing).
     
  2. pt

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    FYI: Ideally EC should be taken seperate from YC

    In addition... Y-HCL by itself has been known to cause those symptoms.
     
  3. Cyrus.

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    Too much to read, but I combined E and clen once, really bad experiance..
    I think the thread is still around here somewhere.
     
  4. Sgt. Ownage

    Sgt. Ownage you gon' be just fiiiine

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    dude...were you even taking any bp shit with ecy?
     
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    :eek3:

    Is that the daily dose people are taking?
    I take 16mg ephedrine with 100mg caffeine in the morning.
    And recently started 100mg caffeine and 7.5mg yohimbine in the afternoon.

    Too low?
     
  6. pt

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    That is a VERY high and potentially dangerous dosage... ESPECIALLY WHEN STACKED E+C+Y.
     
  7. Sgt. Ownage

    Sgt. Ownage you gon' be just fiiiine

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    i took 75mg eph/600 caff before the cycle...but no y hcl
     
  8. GilgaMesH

    GilgaMesH Active Member

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    Back in the day, I saw threads on some bullshit boards that were telling me about dosing and whatnot with my ECY stack and I'm surprised I wasn't killed.


    I was taking 150mg of eph with 1200mg of caffeine and 18mg of Yohimbine.


    The result was being the leanest i've ever been but I also had terrible insomnia and crazy resting heart rates.

    I've learned a lot since then :o
     
  9. pt

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    High doses of yohimbine have resulted in:

    Changes in heart rhythm
    Difficult breathing
    Potentially dangerous drops in blood pressure
    Temporary muscle paralysis in the legs and feet
    One reported case of priapism, a painful sustained erection, is believed to have been caused by taking yohimbine.

    Yohimbe and yohimbine may have an effect on neurotransmitters involved in maintaining emotional balance. General anxiety, manic episodes, psychoses, and other mental conditions reportedly have been triggered or worsened by taking yohimbe or yohimbine.

    Inhaling or smoking powdered yohimbe bark has been reported to produce hallucinations.

    Low doses of yohimbine (under 20 mg per day) have resulted in:

    Abdominal pain
    Diarrhea
    Dizziness
    Drooling
    Elevated blood pressure
    Elevated heart rate
    General weakness
    Increased urine production
    Nausea
    Nervousness
    Sweating
    Vomiting
     
  10. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    been there done that, thats why I tell everyone what hurt me the most so far in my body abuse. Certainly wasnt roids or gh...but ECA almost put me out for good.
     
  11. Sgt. Ownage

    Sgt. Ownage you gon' be just fiiiine

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    get ready for everyone on OT to start hating on ec because an OT colossus of clout didn't like it
     
  12. SilverJettaGLX

    SilverJettaGLX OT Supporter

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    I was taking the following with no sides:

    5 AM 200mg caf. + 22mg Y

    8 AM 200mg caf +25 mg E + 500mg green tea

    12 pm 200mg caf +25 mg E + 500mg green tea

    4 pm 200mg caf +25 mg E + 500mg green tea

    :dunno:
     
  13. nathanbx

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    I've taken 150mgs of ephedrine and 1200mg caffiene for like 2 weeks straight before and I felt fine, that was spread throughout the day in 3 doses
     
  14. Ceaze

    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    Uhhh this is why i've always said you don't take ephedrine and yohimbine together. When you do that you're cutting off the negative feedback loop to excessive SNS stimulation
     
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    where did you find the yohimbine? I haven't been able to find any up here, and I dont' feel like ordering it from the US
     
  16. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    infinite loop? :rofl: I love how everyone uses this shit in the first place but there diets are complete bullshit in the first place. Way to tax your nervous system with no benefit.
     
  17. Sgt. Ownage

    Sgt. Ownage you gon' be just fiiiine

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    haha, no...I was referring to you, bro
     
  18. ACURA TL-S

    ACURA TL-S OT Supporter

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    :werd: I had bad experiences with ECY too. And it was the second two month cycle, so don't think that just because it didn't effect you once that it won't the next time.

    BTW, I weighed 245 and was only taking 15mg Y in the morning and two 25mg doses of E, one before lunch and one before dinner.
     
  19. pt

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    I actually had good experience with ECY... yet I still don't recommend E+C+Y
     
  20. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    eh seen more then one here get hurt with stimulants...many others as well. Cant be a coincendence. I hope people will listen to my warnings, so when they do use it they know what can happen. Sorry for helping people, i guess everythings a fucking bandwagon to you now adays. How about give them some better advice them me then? So lets get this straight, 8 out of 10 are fine but two drop dead or damage there heart from it..this is acceptable?
     
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    Zaffir OT Supporter

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    Holy shit, my body tweaks on me if i take just 200mg of caf.
     
  22. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    I have used it again as well very mildy but I never recommend it either. I dont want someone getting hurt. I can use it when im very lean, but if im over 10% it tends to raise the BP too much and I get heart palps. I used it for 4 weeks this year for my shows and that was the extent of it.
     
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    I fell into that category last summer, my diet wasn't nearly as strict as it is now.
     
  24. pt

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    It's all fun n games until someone suggests that maybe PurEvl was taking something irresponsibly... :hay: j/k

    What was your ECA dosage though... out of curiousity.
     
  25. Ceaze

    Ceaze https://hearthis.at/DoYouEvenUplift Moderator

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    you should be doing it the opposite way around, taking the yohimbine in the morning and ephedrine in the afternoon
     
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