MMA so I had what I would call my first enjoyable night rolling in the Gi v.optamix hate

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  1. Maestro Nobones

    Maestro Nobones Great Job! - GLAD DADS CREW

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    so my mental state on the gi may be reversing a bit. I had a really good time tonight taking my time, working my grips, being methodical about my setups, playing with collar chokes... I didn't get the claustrophobic overheated feeling I usually get, didn't try to rely on explosiveness to get out of stuff... it was nice.

    maybe I don't hate the gi after all...
     
  2. adrenalin112

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    i <3 teh gi.

    makes grappling more of a thinking man's game.
     
  3. Maestro Nobones

    Maestro Nobones Great Job! - GLAD DADS CREW

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    I definitely got a taste of what people appreciate about the gi tonight.
     
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    i honestly don't know why anybody would dislike the gi. Besides looking cool it just feels more comfortable and controllable for me. mainly because if i'm loosing i can just get a grip and go along for the ride :sad2:
     
  5. MyLittleAirport

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    I like the GI even more now because of the amazing throws you can pull off with it :bowdown:
     
  6. VulgarTheClown

    VulgarTheClown A child and a gun.....go together like apple pie a

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    i've really been likin the gi recently. It is good. i like how methodical it is.
     
  7. MyLittleAirport

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    Is methodical the new word of the month for the cage?
     
  8. AK-47

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    it can't be, cage crew would have to know how to spell it in order for it to be the word of the month
     
  9. MyLittleAirport

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    True true.
     
  10. GeeGee

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    +1 for the Gi looking awesome. Especially when you mix up the tops and bottom colors. I wear my shit out to the club all the time. Ladies think I'm tough.
     
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    i dont know anything but gi.. i will take no gi classes when im eligible.. but from what most people say the gi is important to build a skill set and understand techniques and what not.. and people have told me that it definitely helps out your no gi for the future..
     
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    They are delusional.

    Its all in what type of rolling you like. I flame the gi a lot, but I'm mostly just trolling. I'm j ust not a fan of it, and I don't feel you need the gi to get better.

    Eddie Bravo feels the same way(and he even got his black belt in a gi).

    Schools that don't allow you to roll no-gi from the beginning annoy me.

    But you will get people on the other side of the fence that swear you need a good gi game to be a good no-gi grappler.

    I think thats absolutely false.

    Plus I hate, with a passion, rolling in a gi. When people start grabbing my belt/sleeves/ pants I want to elbow them.
     
  14. Sylva

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    You're mad dumb son.

    Name a GOOD NoGi Grapplers that has never trained GI?
     
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    Josh Barnett

    Frank Shamrock
     
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    Oh I'm sorry, did I ruin your argument?

    Saku blasting 4 Gracies is proof enough.
     
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    I'm not saying people that train the gi are dumb, but saying its vital to a good ground game is retarded.
     
  18. Sylva

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    Not talking about mma.
     
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    It does but the only thing is the grips are way different. Harder to break someones posture in No-gi.. I think it is at least.
     
  20. teep

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    ricco rodriguez knee barred nog in adcc :dunno:

    guys like diego sanchez, randy couture, matt hughes, josh barnett etc are pretty elite grapplers even outside of MMA. they're not the best of the best, but you can't say that they're not pretty damn good.
     
  21. Sylva

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    Ricco Trained Gi.

    I'm not saying those guys didn't do ok. But they weren't winning those events, unlike the Gi players were that also competed in the NoGi division. They were the ones winning.
     
  22. Optamix

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    Because its been around longer.

    Give it 10 more years and it will even out.

    Its ok, I don't hate you because you like the gi.

    But look at it like I do.

    I've done 0 grappling tournys.

    I've done 20 fights.
     
  23. teep

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    true, but those guys dedicate their lives to jiu jitsu. the guys i mentioned, like you said, are MMA fighters. They did pretty well without training gi or training exclusively in jiu jitsu. I just think that goes to show you don't necessarily have to wear a gi to be an elite level grappler. I'm not saying playing a gi game won't help, because I think it does. I'm just saying it's not absolutely necessary.
     
  24. Sylva

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    They may not of trained Jiu-Jitsu for their life time but they did grapple. Most of those guys you listed were lifetime wrestlers before they started mma. So it's not like they had 0 mat time and got to that level. The skill levels are comparable.
     
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    ha.. :bigthumb:
     

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