GUN So how do you feel about the whole Dan Cooper situation?

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  1. HisXLNC

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    Voted out of his own company for supporting Obama.

    http://www.cooperfirearms.com/

    Personally, I don't feel sorry for him. He was voting wallet before principles and it bit him in the ass.
     
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    Dan Cooper (co-founder) donates money to Obama campaign. Claims that he did it to help Hillary win the primaries. Word gets out on all the different gun blogs. People e-mail the company threatening to boycott their products. Board meets and decides to ask Cooper to resign.


    Cooper's reasoning:
     
  4. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Sturm, Ruger & Co should have done the same thing when Bill Ruger sold his soul to Clinton.
     
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    i think its rediculous how hardcore pro-gun folks only worries about their "rights to bear arms" and nothing else regarding the presidential candidates

    there are more important issues to address than just guns you know

    i'll probably get flame for this
     
  6. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    There are other issues. I'm not sure they're more important. Any candidate who intends to disarm the people can't be trusted, no matter what else he says, and disarmament is a necessary step before oppression.

    You were aware that the actual fighting in the American Revolution started over gun control, weren't you?
     
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    common man, this is 2008, not 1775.....you can't honestly use that as your argument.....we are in a different time frame different situation than 1775
     
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    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    So because it's a couple centuries later, that means I should trust the government to take care of me, and give up my rights?

    Fuck it, might as well give up your freedom of speech, too. This isn't 1775, after all.


    PS You have a lot of nerve calling me common. :mamoru:
     
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    thats exactly my point, you are not looking at the big picture, you are only worrying about your rights to bear arm and NOTHING ELSE that is happening within our society

    edit: common joe_cool, who the fuck are you?
     
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    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Really? That's fucking amazing, I didn't know you were psychic. Tell me more about what I'm thinking!

    :slap:

    Somebody who knows the difference between "come on" and "common".
     
  11. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    If there were a concentrated, organized movement to strip me of my right to freedom of speech and religion, you'd better believe I'd be as vocal defending that as I am my right to keep and bear arms.

    You fight to keep what's being stolen from you, retard.
    And if you have a problem with people discussing gun rights, maybe you should click out of the GUN SUBFORUM.
     
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    My thoughts exactly.
     
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    i have nothing against gun rights, i support gun rights, i like my guns, i think every mentally stable law abiding citizens should have the rights to arm themselves

    but, to be honest, imo that rights will not go away anytime soon even if we have a democrat in the whitehouse

    the issue that we should be worrying about is how the next dude in the white house will handle our current financial crisis, our national security crisis, our oil dependency crisis, and probably some other ones that, imo, are more important to us, as americans, than the issue of if we can own 30 rounds magazine in our ar15....and yes, i would like to be able to keep on buying 30 rounds mags
     
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    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    OH. So you're one of those guys who think as long as there's SOMETHING that's not banned, the 2nd Amendment is satisfied? You don't care if there's a new, stronger, broader assault weapon ban, because fuck it, you already got what you need? Nice.

    Next time I need you to tell me what I should think and how I should prioritize my positions, I'll be sure to ask.

    In the meantime, however, I think the fact that we have a potential president and majority in both houses of congress that wants to disarm us is of paramount importance.
     
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    no, i'm one of those guys who think the 2nd ammendment issue is important, but not our #1 priority AT THIS POINT IN TIME and regarding the presidential candidates

    you can prioritize your positions any way you want, i'm just pointing out what i think is your flaws, that's what debates/discussions are for
     
  17. Joe_Cool

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    The Constitution is ALWAYS our #1 priority AT EVERY POINT IN TIME.

    I love it. Not agreeing with you = flaws. :rofl:
     
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    if i don't think its a flaw, i wouldn't be arguing

    you probably think my perspectives are flaw too, its ok, i understands both sides of the story
     
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    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    One of us is concerned with upholding the Constitution, and the other is worried about money.

    One of us is flawed, but I don't think it is who you think it is.
     
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    can your rights to bear arm solves any of our current crisis?
     
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    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Can stripping me of my constitutional rights solve any of our current problems?
     
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    when everything goes to shit, the constituation is not gonna matter

    i'd like to think that will never happen
     
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    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    I'm sorry the Constitution isn't practical and expedient enough for you. Unfortunately, it's also the supreme law of the land, and the only thing standing between you and tyranny. Shit on it at your own peril.
     
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    Perhaps not. But firepower will. For a guy who's worried about "when everything goes to shit", you're sure unconcerned about forfeiting the one thing that will make a difference.
     
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    your rights are not going to be stripped anytime soon, not in our lifetime
     

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