so.... are most supplements total BS?

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  1. SquirtRussel

    SquirtRussel OT Supporter

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    ive always been reluctant to drop 100 dollars on supplements...

    especially now after watching bigger faster stronger where they show off how alot of supplements are just crap blends

    are there any peer reviewed studies or anything worth trusting to justify me buying something like AIFM or glucorell?

    so far ive only been eating lots of protein, and an energy drink pre workout

    just seems like alot of money...
     
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    depends what kind of supps.
     
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    Some people aren't poor as fuck
     
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    grimstone magic murda bag OT Supporter

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    they can help of your diet is intact and training is good. if you dont have those no point in getting supplements
     
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    peer reviews on the supplements themselves? no..
    but the active ingredients are well documented to work for the intended and purported purposes.
     
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    You never NEED supp's to make gains, they just make it easier and more convenient. Nonetheless, a good diet comprises 70% of gains anyway (unassisted of course).

    Supplements that won't break the bank that I feel are good investments:

    Whey protein (ON preferably) = 5lbs for $40. This $40 worth of protein will last you a few months.

    Daily Multi-vitamin = 200 for like $14... it'll last you half a year.

    Anything else is just icing IMO. Both those two I feel are good staples of any gym rat's diet though.
     
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    yeah, i take a protein shake and multi every day at least... and as far as my diet

    see: http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=4074335
     
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    well i HAVE been considering AIFM since i have a tiny bit of fat around my nips, not terrible gyno, but if it helps then im in...

    ive heard it can make it worse in some cases so eh
     
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    Most everyone who has taken it on this site has seen some decent improvement using it.

    Read directions carefully though because some develop rashes.
     
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    for the most part, based on what you get out of them vs. what they cost - yes
     
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    bear frankly rover i dont give a "woof

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    aifm didnt do shit for me
     
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    in short....yes
     
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    im in the exact same postion as you buddy, as far as minor gyno is concerned, and am very interested in AIFM, ive heard it helps minor cases of it
     
  15. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    99.9% crap
     
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    and what .1% AIFM?
     
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    AIFM works. There's no question about that. Some people think it does things that it can't do though.

    What did it not do that you were looking for?
     
  18. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    actually the pure cee and beta alanine and the fat burners from anafit all worked as advertised no doubt but its not like you cant achieve the results without em either. Supps can indirectly cause growth or help a lifter by allowing fluid in the joints to train heavier, or buffer lactic acid but theres no supp that will make you better than you are or faster other then the real deal or pro hormones. Anything that can make you jacked, lean, etc just by taking them and working out normal is gonna come with a price and side effect imo.
     
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    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    well i can tell you it didnt do shit to two of my guys blood work. But then again i dont think they were good testers of it so i dont really consider it a fair judgement. I would love to get it once for one of my completely supp/drug free guys and see how it goes but they are cheap fuckers :rofl: I will get em to some day.
     
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    I still want to try it but I just never bought the stuff
     
  21. PurEvl

    PurEvl going out gassed and not half assed...

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    be on nothing but that then... only way to know and see results.
     
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    generally, no.

    there is an exception, if you are a high DHT producer and convert abnormal amounts of DHT to 3-beta diol then it could aggravate that conversion. This conversion is usually very minimal. But is a small percentage of individuals it does occur.

    but again, unaware of anyone actually reporting this, just giving a theory about why it could.

    this would of course occur with any AI, in these persons. Though again fairly rare. If you do find that you fall into this category, low dose finasteride might be beneficial.
     
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    well if they stopped taking it for a day or two prior to getting blood work, estrogen levels would again be higher.

    it wont do much of anything with respect to other hormones. If you have the numbers, and could ask when/if they stopped the AIFM that would be helpful.

    personally have pulled an ND estradiol, using higher dose AIFM. Though that dried joints a bit excessively, but just wanted to see :)
     
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    this is strange, because there are zero such reports on any other forum, yet here there are 2 (three if you count that their were 2 guys in purevl's group). seriously, nearly 3 years, and pretty much no reports that it "did nothing"

    how much were you using?
    how long?
    body fat?
    any noticeable estrogenic fat pattern?

    am curious because, well, as formulator of it a bit more than surprised
     
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    I don't feel it made any noticeable results... but then again I was probably expecting too much from it.
     
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