Skim milk instead of water in your shakes? (also some other basic nutrition stuff)

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  1. Ultimate_Ninja

    Ultimate_Ninja New Member

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    Evening everybody.

    I'm curious as to whether or not there's anybody that uses milk instead of water in their protein shakes. It adds an extra 9g protein per 4oz, 13g carbs, and no fat - 90 calories in all.

    I'm asking because I'm currently going to try it this week. I drink 3 shakes a day - two meal replacements (one between breakfast and lunch, one between lunch and the workout. The workout one is about 1.25 hours before my workout), and one immediately after my workout. I figure the extra protein has to help, I'm sure I could use more calcium, and the additional calories aren't significant enough in the grand scheme of things anyways.

    I've decided that with winter coming along, I'm going to get a little bit bigger. I'm not going to "bulk up" per se, but I am going to increase my caloric intake/protein intake and this seemed a simple way to do so.

    My day, as far as nutrition goes, goes like this:

    • 1,990 calories
    • 40g fat
    • 190g carbs (lots of whole grain)
    • 218g protein
    This is before dinner. Dinner is always healthy, but it changes every day so I've got to be a little bit more flexible with that. I'd say an average dinner is between 600-800 calories and always features a lean meat. Couple that with the casein before bed (1 scoop ON Gold Standard), and I'm right around 300g protein for the day.

    I'm 6'0", 195 lbs. Not looking to get huge or anything, but I definitely want to put on muscle. My goal from the beginning has always been to just get in better shape - lean out, get stronger, etc. etc. Just generally be more athletic and better looking.

    Any opinions? I'm not as hard-core as some of you guys, but I've learned a hell of a lot lurking around here. Thanks in advance.
     
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    Meal schedule is as follows:

    6:30am - wake up, immediately eat. Whole grain cereal (Grape Nuts, Honey Bunches of Oats Just Bunches, etc) mixed in with one serving nonfat yogurt.
    350cal
    7g fat
    62g carbs
    10g protein

    9:30am - meal replacement #1. 1/2 scoop ON Whey, 1/2 scoop ON casein in skim milk
    255cal
    1g fat
    23g carbs
    37.5g protein

    12:30 lunch - big can o' tuna, 1 tbsp olive oil, 4 wasa crispbread crackers
    650cal
    19g fat
    40g carbs
    83g protein

    3:30 - meal replacement #2/pre-workout meal/shake (same ingredients as above)
    255cal
    1g fat
    23g carbs
    37.5g protein

    6:30 - post-workout shake. 2 scoops Muscle Milk in 16oz skim milk
    480cal
    12g fat
    42g carbs
    50g protein


    Again, this is what I'm proposing starting this week. The skim milk adds quite a bit to my carb count - is this too much?
     
  3. thebeave

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    First of all, ditch the meal replacement shakes, you end up pissing out most of that shit. At the 2000 calorie level you can EASILY get it that many calories from real food. I'm a huge fan of PWO protein shakes but beyond that just eat real food. Also if you want to bulk you probably want more than 2000 calories in a day, that is the recommended amount for a sedentary adult to maintain. At 6'0 195 you'll probably need to eat at least 50% more than that, and again make sure it's real food. I drink a fuck ton of milk, I wouldn't worry about it, I find it easier to hit calorie goals if I drink 6-8 servings of milk a day, but then again I'm averaging almost 4500 calories a day.
     
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    michael FLORIDA > *

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    no whole milk, no care.
     
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    ignore this...

    but instead of just those things in milk, get some muscle milk and drink that. tastes good and has nice calorie mix (or get mass meal, tastes even better) :bowdown:
     
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    I use Muscle Milk for my post-workout shake. Love that shit.
     
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    something tastes better than muscle milk? that's hard to top. i'll have to try this mass meal. :noes:
     
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    GuOD mcflurry diet

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    it has better stuff in it too


    too bad they axed banana.,. that stuff was the best ever
     
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    I'm kinda pumped to try Muscle Milk with skim milk :wackit: I love their chocolate flavor
     
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    Or not :ugh:

    There's several members on here that advise against heavy usage of meal replacement shakes because you just end up pissing out most of it rather than utilizing it. Why the hell do you need meal replacement shakes to hit 2000 calories, I hit that before NOON each day eating completely clean.
     
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    I use skim milk in my protein shakes. Tastes good.
     
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    i always use milk, usually 2 %
     
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    IBCeaze'smilkpost.
     
  14. tbizzle

    tbizzle you smoke that shit?

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    i make almost all my shakes with whole while bulking. Usually my PWO shake is just water + whey.


    Most of the protein in milk is casein IIRC.

    probably wrong though :o
     
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    i agree with this man, you are eating so little already if i were you i would try to get mostly food not half food half shakes, eat a can of tuna instead with some carbs
     
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    Skim milk when cutting, whole and 2% when not.
     
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    Word. If you can't hit 2000 calories with real food you've got bigger problems than worrying about carbs from milk :rofl:


    Makes it taste soooo much better.
     
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    It's like chocolate milk. PUre delicious chocolate milk. Heaven.
     
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    can also put your whey powder in yogurt :). fage total 0% yogurt = 9g protein / 4g carbs per 100g... usually they sell them in 170 or 500g containers ( 45g protein right there).
    and people are suggesting whole milk for bulking fats, just use the skim milk or yogurt and add some almonds or cashews instead (maybe eat them before to get your hunger going)
     
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    I don't ever recall anyone recommending against the use of MRPs, especially if someone is only getting 2000 cals. At 2000 cals, his body is probably making better use of those MRP shakes than most people.

    That being said, you're right that he does need to eat more in whole foods. Nothing is a substitute for whole foods, but MRPs are great for people who have "low appetites" or generally just don't eat enough.
     
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    whole milk > *
     
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    i gotta agree with the eat whole foods camp. 2000 cals a day clean or dirty is easily accomplished, low appetite or not with solid food.
     
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    hey abomb is back. :rofl:
     
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    gotta love big daddy pur
     
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    dont start that shit in this thread :nono:

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