GUN Shorty Shot Gun........

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  1. luvitlo94

    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    So, I am gonna have my buddy (who is a FFL and has a MFG. Liscence) make me a short shotgun. I am gonna base it off of the Serbu Super Shorty, but want it a little longer to hold more shells. What should I base it off of, a Mossy 500, or Remmy 870? Also, should I go 12GA. or 20GA.? I am thinking I want it to hold 3+1 or maybe 4+1. But I want it to be short enough to be considered a pistol, so I can carry it in my truck. :naughty:
     
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    It won't be considered a pistol. At best, an AOW. A SBS with only a pistol grip (no shoulder stock) is an AOW. $5 tax instead of $200.
     
  3. UrbanKnight

    UrbanKnight Good, Bad, I'm the guy with the gun

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    And since it is not considered a pistol, you can't legally CCW it!


    Now, you can get AR pistols, LOL
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    in AZ, it's a concealed weapons permit and not a concealed handgun permit, so you can CCW anything, even a shotgun.
     
  5. striker754

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    :hsugh: Depends on your state's definition of a pistol and definition of what you can conceal carry.

    a short shotgun would fall under colorados definition of a handgun

    (e.5) "Handgun" means a pistol, revolver, or other firearm of any description, loaded or unloaded, from which any shot, bullet, or other missile can be discharged, the length of the barrel of which, not including any revolving, detachable, or magazine breech, does not exceed twelve inches.

    You could carry that in COlorado if it had a barrel shorter than 12 inches and if it wasnt a machine gun.

    here is the statute on what you can carry
    "Handgun" means a handgun as defined in section 18-12-101 (1) (e.5); except that the term does not include a machine gun as defined in section 18-12-101 (1) (g).

    does your buddy have an 02 SOT?
     
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    BigBadJohn Pay-back time OT Supporter

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    I can conceal carry my airsoft gun :hsugh:
     
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    black96gtvert "Is that goal regulation size or what!" -Happy Gil

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  8. Clusive

    Clusive Happiness is a belt-fed weapon.

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    Since you're going to have a pistol grip on it, I'd go with the 870 because of the safety location.

    Edit - And I'd go with 12GA.
     
  9. luvitlo94

    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    It is the same here. A pistol is classified under 30"
     
  10. luvitlo94

    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    02 SOT?
     
  11. ElChupacabra

    ElChupacabra we should have fucking shotguns

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    Why start with a $600 conversion? A factory Moss AOW is like $400, is 4+1, 12".
     
  12. luvitlo94

    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    :dunno: My buddy would only be charging me like $50 to do the work.
     
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    ya, ya know the license you need to be able to legally make something like you are talking about...
     
  14. luvitlo94

    luvitlo94 Make a choice and don't look back.

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    I didn't know it was called that, but yeah, he has his mfg. license. He is actually working on a AR "can" right now.
     
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    or a form 1
     
  16. ElChupacabra

    ElChupacabra we should have fucking shotguns

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    An 02 SOT is not a license. An 07 FFL is a license. It is a manufacturer of other than destructive devices license. The 02 SOT is just that, a Special (Occupational) Tax. You will see the same tax receipt (SOT) in a liquor store.

    FWIW, if he is starting with a Serbu Super Shorty (which doesn't make sense to me to buy a spendy short gun to make longer when the factory gun is the size he wants and 1/3 cheaper), the smith doesn't need an 02 or an 07FFL to work on it. He should not leave the receiver with them overnight, but they only need it to manufacture it, not to work on it.
     
  17. UrbanKnight

    UrbanKnight Good, Bad, I'm the guy with the gun

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    Yes, but you can't concealed carry a Class 3 weapon... (FA, Surpressed or AOW)

    "Prohibited weapon" means, but does not include, fireworks imported, distributed or used in compliance with state laws or local ordinances, any propellant, propellant actuated devices or propellant actuated industrial tools which are manufactured, imported or distributed for their intended purposes or a device which is commercially manufactured primarily for the purpose of illumination, any:
    a) Explosive, incendiary or poison gas:
    i) Bomb.
    ii) Grenade.
    iii) Rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces.
    iv) Mine; or
    b) Device designed, made or adapted to muffle the report of a firearm; or
    c) Firearm that is capable of shooting more than one shot automatically, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger; or
    d) Rifle with a barrel length of less than sixteen inches, or shotgun with a barrel length of less than eighteen inches, or any firearm made from a rifle or shotgun which, as modified, has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches; or

    UK
     
  18. ElChupacabra

    ElChupacabra we should have fucking shotguns

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    Is that from the CCW statute? That looks like the prohibited weapon list, which for C3 to be legal in AZ would then require an affirmative defense that it be registered per NFA like TX does.
     
  19. UrbanKnight

    UrbanKnight Good, Bad, I'm the guy with the gun

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    Yes, but after re-reading it, it specifically notes out NFA items, very odd indeed, perhaps you can carry them... But have fun with that in court, LOL

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