MMA Sherdog Article on Fedor

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  1. Sylva

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    And I totally fucking agree.

    Red and Green: The Fedor Fiasco Options: [​IMG] Email Article | [​IMG] Printer Friendly [​IMG]March 10, 2008
    by Jake Rossen ([email protected])

    Stop me if you've heard this one. Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures) is once again -- allegedly, presumably, unofficially, categorically, depressingly -- the most valuable free agent in mixed martial arts.

    Emelianenko's cryostasis was supposed to have thawed with his M-1 Global affiliation last fall. Instead, we got one vapid fight against Marvel Comics mutant Hong Man Choi (Pictures), months of thumb twiddling courtesy of the front office and fatiguing speculation over a theoretical bout with Randy Couture (Pictures). (It's now a fight that can't possibly live up to the unending, insufferable hype.)

    M-1 -- led by respected athlete manager Monte Cox -- seemed optimistic that it could circumvent the obvious problems in trying to build a promotional foundation spread across two continents. (Perhaps Cox should've consulted with Ed Fishman, Dana White or anyone who's tried to negotiate foreign combat policy with obstinate peers from overseas.) Now comes word that M-1 is about to implode thanks to warring ideals and what some smart person once dubbed "paralysis by analysis," the act of overthinking everything and therefore doing nothing.

    And so the Emelianenko sweepstakes have been resurrected, with the countless freshman organizations all coveting the cache that comes from hosting the presumed world's best fighter.

    But as Emelianenko and his agents may soon discover, the adhesive on that label is beginning to peel.

    The Russian's last important fight was against Mark Hunt (Pictures) in December 2006 -- and Hunt, barely on the fringe of the heavyweight scene, made Emelianenko work for it. Since then, Emelianenko has fought only twice, the spectacle against Choi and a pointless bout with middleweight Matt Lindland (Pictures).

    At what point does the hype expire on the hyperbole?

    While the Red Devil figurehead has been busy in the boardroom, athletes like Anderson Silva, Quinton Jackson (Pictures) and Georges St. Pierre (Pictures) have been busy challenging the best in their respective divisions. Even mainstream media, which was all too quick to buy into the concept of Emelianenko as a mystical, mythical figure, has now slotted Silva as the pound-for-pound great. (Imagine the outcry if Silva proceeded to spend the next three years fighting medical oddities and lightweights.)

    At a certain point, one has to wonder whether the myriad of financial and contractual impositions that Emelianenko promises are still worth it. If you're paying for the sport's best, shouldn't he have to offer contemporary proof of that? If you're doing due diligence on your investment, wouldn't you question your athlete's diluted career?

    Emelianenko, as this space has often charged, possesses his image in part because the heavyweight division is the flimsiest in the game. Aside from highly impressive wins against Mirko Filipovic (Pictures) and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Pictures), he's yet to dominate a majority slice of the top 10. And under the right (or wrong, depending on your perspective) rule set, a good wrestler stands an excellent chance of grounding him and using elbows to turn his scar-stricken forehead into tenderloin.

    That's a pretty anticlimactic end to what would be a massive investment.

    That said, the UFC -- surely a reluctant contestant in the drawing -- could do worse than to make an effort to see the Emelianenko-Couture bout happen, which would snatch away one of the more significant fights from the competition and sway media attention back to the premier MMA brand in North America.

    White and his crew may not feel that heat, however. Despite the incessant fan and press chatter every time the heavyweight passes gas, the bulk of the UFC's customers have little idea what the match truly represents. The blanket story that there's some kind of Pride invasion has been quashed with the mediocre results offered by Wanderlei Silva (Pictures), Dan Henderson (Pictures) and others.

    What's really for sale, then? A nearly anonymous foreign fighter who speaks little English, sports a dumpy physique and hasn't been pushed in a fight in years. Call it sacrilege, but Kimbo Slice is poised to sell more pay-per-views than Emelianenko -- at a fraction of his price.

    It's ironic that Emelianenko's value revolves solely around a shaky claim to being the sport's best, yet he continues to do nothing to substantiate it.

    At least he is re-entering the free market with a fresh line of suitors. EliteXC's deal with CBS might encourage the promotion to open its wallets and send the Russian on a tour of fighting B- and C-list heavyweights with the occasional meaningful fight (Josh Barnett (Pictures), possibly Andrei Arlovski (Pictures)) thrown in. Rumors of the Affliction clothing company and Oscar De La Hoya entering the business could drive up his price further.

    But as Emelianenko's middling recent results and contractual foot-stomping have indicated, any and all potential business partners should pay heed to the appropriate Latin cliché: Drago's caveat emptor.

    Let Fedor's buyer beware
     
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    i agree too, the myth that was Emelianenko was justifiable 2-3 years ago. No it's nothing but an old wifes tale. Just sucks that it had to happen like this
     
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    If he needs to make sacrifices to stay on top and fight top competition he better do it. But if what he cares about is money (understandable), then whatever... let him keep doing what he's doing. Let MMA move on without him, imo.
     
  4. dengar

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    good article.

    It will be interesting to see who the players are in the negotiations this time.

    Could it be possible that no one is really interested?
     
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    I bet EliteXC is very interested.
     
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    i wouldn't really blame them, he might be the best but we will never know unless he proves himself with contemporary fighters, not just the best of 3 years ago. The sport has grown immensely in the last 3 years and so have the fighters competing in this sport.
     
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    Would they?

    They know what kind of demands that he and his team have.

    It would only be a matter of time before he was to fight Kimbo and possibly kill the mystique of their most popular fighter who brings in a ton of non-MMA fans.
     
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    I don't think they would through him against Kimbo for a long time, hopefully they would pursue Arlovski and Barnett among others for him to fight first. Give Kimbo some more experience before getting destroyed.
     
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    well said
     
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    I agree they would avoid that fight at all cost, but if they went after him they would be paying a ton to get Fedor plus having to pay a good bit to bring in other talent to fight him (AA, Barnett, etc). Or they can just have Fedor fight Ricco over and over again.
     
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    Hongman fight was not a freakshow matchup. Hongman isn't top 5 in MMA by anymeans but it was a legit matchup with a top-notch striker. Most likely outcome was of him getting submitted, but he could have just as easily put Fedor's lights out.
     
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    Am I the only one that is annoyed by that article? This bandwagon of "haters" on fedor is annoying and spreading. It's like everyone suddenly forgot how talented he is and how amazing he is every single fight you see him in.
     
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    I just want to watch him fight. :hs:

    Best way is him signing with UFC or EliteXC.
     
  14. roose

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    Fedor will silence the critics soon enough. For all the hate he gets there isn't another heavyweight that can be ranked above him.
     
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    I agree with the article about Fedor fighting in a cage, he bleeds too easily and will get put down by a good wrestler and elbowed to a TKO (cut).
     
  16. roose

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    Everyone is pussy hurt because Fedor isn't doing what they think he should be doing.
     
  17. roose

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    Yes, he will just let them take him down and elbow him. :ugh2:
     
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    Fedor's been taken down before, Randy can do it. maybe even Gonzaga.
     
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    Noone's denying Fedor's skills. It's the fact that he needs to be fighting contenders to preserve his top dog status. The article is spot on.

    It's particularly interesting in how Fedor might not be able to get top dollar anymore as his stock has fallen with his inactivity / lacklustre opponents, and what we've seen with previously highly regarded athletes stumbling in the UFC.

    Fedor shouldn't be ranked number 1 but then it's hard to justify Noguiera to be no 1 when Fedor is his nemesis.

    Either way, Fedor NEEDS to be in the UFC. Nowhere else is an option frankly. But I don't think is going to happen.

    The heavies = seriously messed up.
     
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    Sorry but I called this shit back when he fought Mark Hunt.

    I also said that Jardine and Evans were better than Pride fighters like Nakamura and Yoshida but everyone argued with me.

    Huzzah!
     
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    I'm pretty sure Mark Hunt was in most top 10 rankings when he fought Fedor (unless he dropped out after his Barnett loss).

    Also Jardine and Evans haven't fought any Pride fighters yet, just to nitpick :p
     
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    Yeah, because the fact that Jardine beat Liddell and Forrest beat Shogun doesn't add up. Also Nakamura lost and Yoshida is in can-land right now. Face up, son.
     
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    Fucking yeah. I dare anyone here to go watch one of the better HL's of Fedor and come back here saying that guy isn't the fucking man.

    I understand that it would be unfair to rank him as the current #1 because of his inactivity, but it's like every time people mention that fact they insinuate in the same breath that Fedor is weak shit. Fuck that.
     
  25. roose

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    There isn't another heavyweight out there that has done anything in the past 2 years to make Fedor's stock drop or challenge his top dog status.

    Anderson Silva will most likely be fighting lesser quality opponents for the next 1-2 years (aside from okami). The UFC will make every fight sound epic and important, when in reality he'll be smashing cans.

    This wouldn't even be an issue had the HMC or Lindland or Hunt fights happened in the UFC with all the promotional weight behind it. It's a matter of context. Try to justify how Gonzaga is a top 10 heavyweight... If he was fighting in any organisation other than the UFC he wouldn't be.

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    There aren't any options left, unfortunately.
     

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