MIL Security Clearance

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  1. 540guy

    540guy New Member

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    I would like to join the army. I also would like my MOS to be 25F or 25B. Both of these apparently require a Secret security clearance. I am worried about not getting these due to a pretty lenghty history of drug use (mostly weed), and of course, don't wanna lie about it so it will be brought up. How badly do they dislike drug use?
     
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    lengthy history eh.....

    how recent?
     
  3. 540guy

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    Well, everyday weed usage for awhile now. Been months since any harder drug use. I believe in the legalization, so...am I fucked?
     
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    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    They can deal with weed, harder things are a bit touchier.
     
  5. 540guy

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    So is there really no way of telling if Clearance will be granted until months after I enlist, correct? If I am denied I will have to pick a new MOS - which is fine - however I was hoping to learn some skills and earn certs while active duty that I could transfer over to something I'd like to do when I got out. I am 19 now, so I would be around ~24 when I got out of the army and started to earn a degree with the G.I. bill which would put me around 28 before I got a bachelors. Correct?

    Is there anybody here who has been denied that can elaborate a little on why they may have denied you?
     
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    Your 19? How lengthy and in depth can your drug history be? I also am a supporter of MM, but there is a time and a place to let your voice be heard lol.
     
  7. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    How long have you been off of weed?
     
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    Even if you don't get the clearance make sure you take advantage of tuition assistance. You might even finish the Bachelor's degree before you get out of the service.
     
  9. 540guy

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    teabagn, I figured I shouldn't lie to them if they asked? I've been smoking since about 12-13.

    Jyokker, I just smoked.

    NisAznMonk, Interesting - how common is it for newly enlisted army to be able to obtain college credits while active duty?
     
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    i thought 25F was going away, will be merged with 25N or something
     
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    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    You're not serious about joining.
     
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    THE KEY: Do you have any charges regarding drug use? You can smoke like a fucking chimney your entire life as long as you pass your piss test at MEPS and are clean after that.

    The Army is not desperate for recruits anymore, so garbage people are slowly going to not be allowed to join, like they have for the past X years.
     
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    they only know what you tell them. if you are clean now dont even mention that you smoked weed, a lot of people screw themselves over when they answer the stupid questions like "have you take any advil this year" etc. remember that is there job to keep you out, they see 100's of recruits everyday and it makes no difference to them.
     
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    You are correct. 25F is more or less a dead MOS.
     
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    regardless, stop smoking NOW
     
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    Sort of. Depends on what kind of equipment your unit has. All of our 25F have become 25N, but if they transfer out of the brigade, they will go back to 25F.
     
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    1) Admit marijuana - "less than 10 times sir" is an appropriate response

    2) Never ever touch the shit again

    3) When filling out Security Questionaire - give references that don't know about drug use or won't speak of it.

    4) Receive Secret Clearance
     
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    I never said anything about lying ;) --- However should there be no record of said usage....
     
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    prison felons can get a secret clearance, they give them out like candy. one of our cooks on the ship had one.
     
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    I am reclassing to 25B right now and I had a conversation with someone who wants me to go 25F...

    I wouldn't call it dead...
     
  22. Twisted STi

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    so don't tell them anything. it's only your conscience that will give yourself away, considering no record of prior usage. don't shoot yourself in the foot if youre trying to get a clearance.

    oh yeah, but stop smoking lol
     
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    Secret is weaksauce
     
  24. 540guy

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    Do they perform polygraphs for the Secret clearance?
     
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    Thank you for your help. If I am denied Clearance, will I get to select a new MOS or what happens to me? :)
     

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