Scott and others on this board. I have been reading info on this board and the other detail board. Alot of the posts deal with removal of paint defects. I have read a recent post,http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31673 where he has used DACP 2x. The swirls are stil there though, and he took pictres of it. He even used a machine to make the detail easier and less time consuming. Scottwax and others, Do you ever really remove 100 percent of the swirls, or do you mask them? I remember when working at a BMW dealer my first job as doing details. They had so many cars to do, and they didnt have time to make them pefect. As we know, a glaze is a filler and can be used to hide defects. They used some products to hide the swirls, but they would return after it rained or in a short time. I dont understand the "secret" to this problem, and never will. I cant believe some people like scottwax can take a black car, that you know has swirls, they all do, and fix it by hand with DACP. Others cant fix it with 2 coats and a machine. What are your guys expierences with swirl removal by hand or machine? 80 percent,90,100 percent swirl free. Swirls are my biggest fear out of the whole detailing aspect.