GUN Scope Question for Pistol

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  1. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    Sight Question for Pistol

    EDIT - REPLACE SIGHT WITH SCOPE IN TITLE

    THANKS MGMT.


    So I have this now (will pick up in less than 2 weeks)

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    I want to get a cheap sight that will help improve accuracy and someone on Ruger Forum said they had one of these. Its a 30mm RedDot 5 MOA

    Any Pros or Cons to this, the guy at the range I think said it donest magnify I think, (which I usually shoot at 25yrds max so dont know if its an issue)
    but I am looking for something as inexpensive as possible and from what I understand this just puts a reddot on the target?


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    PS if you dont know sights or have anything against buying an inexpensive one get out Plat Thunder
     
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  2. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    Also what kinda of mouting rail would I need?
     
  3. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    Another option for $40 that also comes in black or silver

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  4. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    Also thinking about these

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    Clingman Clingman runs Bartertown.

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    That's not a scope. It won't help your accuracy, although it may speed up acquisition. Honestly, go without it. The best thing you can do for your accuracy is to spend that 40 bucks on ammo and go burn it all. Don't worry about the toys.
     
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    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    OK its a sight.. you are saying that wont help at all with accuracy?

    I did an edit :)
     
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    Clingman Clingman runs Bartertown.

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    No optic will help with accuracy, but they can help with precision. But a high level of precision with a 5MOA dot is going to be challenging.
     
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    Clingman Clingman runs Bartertown.

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    I actually do own one of the BSA red dots. It's on a pellet gun, where it belongs.

    LOL
     
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    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    That is funny you should read the line you quoted
     
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    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    what is the difference between precision and accuracy?
     
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    red dots are great for competition shooting and combat, but thats because it helps you aquire multiple targets quicker. They usually do not magnify, and the few that do are set at 2x so that's not a factor. They don't aid in precision especially one with a huge 5moa dot. If you want to scope it, then look at true pistol scopes with a weaver mount like this one.

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    Cool.. how much someting like that run?
     
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    Precision is being able to hit the same spot over and over.

    Accuracy is being able to get the rounds on what you're aiming at.

    If you are precise and inaccurate, it means you're shooting a tight group but the group is not on target. Adjust the sights and you are set.

    If you are imprecise and accurate, you are shooting horrible groups but they are generally evenly spread on the target. Which is bad (edit: most of the time). :)
     
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    OK makes sense
     
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    soccaian New Member

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    i have a BSA 30mm red dot on my beretta u22 neos and it does help you shoot better... i can pull MUCH better groups with the sight than without. i love mine!
     
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    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    See this is what I am looking for...

    give me an idea of HOW it helps you...
     
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    It helps people because they don't want to use sights to aim. LEARN TO USE YOUR SIGHTS. You should not be able to make better hits with a 5 MOA dot than with iron sights.

    With that said, one way a red dot helps is that it provides a single plane of focus for the shooter's eye. Instead of having to focus on the front sight with the rear sight and target being blurry you can superimpose the dot over your target and they will appear to be in the same focal plane.

    LEARN TO USE YOUR IRON SIGHTS!
     
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    Thanks for another idiotic response
     
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    Honestly I'd stay away from optics in the beginning especially training yourself on a .22 with a scope defeats the purpose of a beginner pistol such as a Ruger MKII. I haven't gotten to the point where I can use optics on .22 pistols yet, because I use .22s mainly as a training pistols for myself. But if you're intent on getting a scope for you MKII this is a better place to ask:
    http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=118

    As soon as I get used to my Marvel unit 1, I'm going with an Aimpoint myself with probably a 3 MOA dot or the like.

    I'd suggest you not spend too much time over at RFC cause it gets really addicting, the low price of 22s suck you in and before you know it you have over a grand in a 10/22 and you're already starting your second build.
     
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    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    Great link to check out. The Ruger Mark II was something I wanted, I am definately getting a grip since I dont care for the stock one. I was thinking of a scope/sight to help improve accuracy, but true also is I want to learn how to shoot more consistantly.
    THis is my third gun, I traded basically my Ruger 9mm to get this and will retain my XD-40.
    I am still up in the air on getting a red dot sight for the fact that I dont want to get away from the basics but would like something to help me line up the target.
    I could see easily dropping a grand on a Mark II with all the crap you can buy for it.
     
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    it helps because it basically simplifies the whole operation. i can simply point the gun at the target, put the red dot over the bullseyes and pull the trigger. it helps me be more precise because i dont have to worry about the sights being slightly out-of-line when i shoot. the trade-off of that, however, is that i can't shoot as rapidly with the red dot because there are only a few degrees all around where the dot is still visible, unlike traditional post and notch sights.

    hope that helps.

    i also have a mark 2, and i'm simply more consistent with the beretta. though, out at a distance, i am about equal with either gun.
     
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    From that it does help your accuracy then
     
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    That is the one I am already looking at :bigthumb:
     

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