Scion?

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  1. 4W4K3

    4W4K3 New Member

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    What is the general consensus about Scion, particularly the xA?

    I know they are budget type cars, Toyota powered, but what else?

    Are they cheap beaters designed for poor folk and offer nothing in terms of functionality and performance customization? Or what?

    I like the xA, I like the price, and I like the fact that they are Toyota powered.

    However I hate that is has a baseline of 103HP/101 ft. lb torque.

    :dunno: I jsut want a small car, lightweight, with modest power and decent gas mileage. With 101HP it gets 32/38MPG, but I was hoping to get more than 101HP with some mods...otherwise forget it.
     
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    A couple of females at my work drive them. IMO I'd rather spend a little more and get something with ATLEAST 150hp
     
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    Yeah, if you are looking for a Scion, I would personally go for the tC. It has more power and still manages to get good gas mileage. Along with that, there is quite a bit of aftermarket support for it. The xA isn't bad, but as KIDRR implied, it is definitely more of a female car.
     
  4. 4W4K3

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    Heh, the whole "female car" thing doesn't really bother me...since I also like Miata's. The style of the tC isn't really to my liking, that was my only beef with it. But it does seem to have more to offer. hmm
     
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    I have an 06' tC 5-speed. Decent mpg: I average 28.
    Decent power with the 5-speed.

    I love mine.
     
  6. Virality

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    there are quite a bit of performance mods out for the xA. I know someone who has an xB thats making about 130 na whp. I'm assuming this can be done with the xA too sine they have the same engine
     
  7. 1.8

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    tC's aren't THAT quick but they're good enough for a DD, esp. with some mods. They're easy to work on, seem to be reliable, handle mediocre-ly though. Also look at the mazda 3.
     
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    xa's are so tiny inside. xb's on the other hand are not.
     
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    If you get a tC, upgrade the rear sway bar, and get new tires. It makes a difference.
     
  10. deusexaethera

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    Maybe you should just get a VW GTI.
     
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    :rofl: Friends don't let friends buy VW
     
  12. SnugNuts

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    get an xa with a zpi turbo and u can beat stock type s, the turbo for this car is aobut 300 dollars, brings u up to about 150 whp on a stock motor, u can get more if u up the psi, but ive seen some fast xa/xb with just a turbo and that will still bring the price of the car to less than 20 k
     
  13. Rufus

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    GTI is way out of the price range of Scions... 14k vs. 22k :hsugh:
     
  14. deusexaethera

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    Nah, the new cars are going to be a lot better quality. Now that VW has invested 900 million euros to develop the technology in the Phaeton, and now that the Phaeton has been yanked from the one market that could actually afford to buy it, they're going to have to pay for all that research by putting the Phaeton technology into their "normal" cars.
     
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    looks like it's working. at the last autocross the dsg gti that was there kept flashing the check engine light. the owner said it's ridiculous because he's taken it in 3x for that, and the car is stock aside from the tires wheels and springs. still said it's the best vw he's driven though.
     
  16. Virality

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    OT, but are you the same mandangalo from scionlife?
     
  17. BillyJackNCoke

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    I have an Xa, and I don't really have any problems with it. It gets good gas mileage, and quick enough to get out of it's own way in traffic, and I can fit 4 people in there and go on a road trip sorta comfortably
     
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    someone knows who I am :run: :noes:
     
  19. alltracman78

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    Are you sure that's not crank hp?

    That is QUITE a jump for that engine.
    If it had a turbo, I could see. But being NA, I don't believe it.

    Do you have a dyno sheet?
     
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    Wow.

    That's impressive. :)

    I guess I stand corrected.
     
  22. Virality

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    :rofl:

    it sure is. but the cost FTL
     
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    I have an xA and a tC. The xA is a nice car, for the money.. The seats are kinda uncomfortable. The lack of factory cruise and keyless entry kinda sucks. I added a remote start and keyless entry package the week we bought it, haven't done anything about the lack of cruise...
     
  24. deusexaethera

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    Part of the problem there is that VW's computer systems are far too sensitive to normal variations in the way their parts function.

    I have a 1999 Passat and I've only ever had one CEL because of a fried ignition controller, but people with the same model of car with newer drive-by-wire engines that have 2x as many sensors get tons more CELs, yet their cars run just as well as mine.

    A CEL on a Volkswagen means it's working properly. Two CELs on a Volkswagen means its time to buy a VAG-COM cable so you can reset your own error codes. :mamoru: As with any car, you don't REALLY have a problem until it stalls out, idles rough, or starts pouring out smoke.
     
  25. ///M

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    that's ridiculous :o
     

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