Well i'm looking for a new car, and i'm stuck between the scion Tc and the Civic Si. Both 2007. The Tc how I want it is 18.3k while the Civic is about 21 MSRP. Problem is the dealers around here are marking up the Si like 2500 dollars. Don't know if I can get around the markup, and you can only get MSRP on scions because of Pure Pricing. So for the Scion i'm looking at 18.3 and the Si 23k if i'm lucky. Is the civic worth the extra 5k or so over the tC? Anybodys impressions that have driven both, i'm test driving the ex and Si tomorrow and a scion if I can find a manual in the area to test drive.