Discussion in 'On Topic' started by Hooligan, Jun 12, 2008.
I have a WASR-10. Why is this inferior to a G-Code or a Bulgy or something?
WASR's were originally made to be single stack rifles limited to 10 rounds, Century monkeys dremeled the mag well out to take double stacks, so shoddy work around the magwell. Canted sights are common on WASR's, shoddy finish, shoddy wood. The recent ones use G2 triggers earlier ones had century fire control groups many of which would have trigger slap out of the box or develop it after some use.
If you got one with straight sights and a decent magwell they're good shooters but compare one side by side with a bulgie, arsenal or converted saiga and you'll notice a big difference in the fit and finish.
Okay, so hypothetically, if I put on a Tapco Fusion handguard and stock, cleaned it up a little, maybe some Duracoat, and made sure it was a straight shooter it would be pretty decent?
Refinish the metal and stock and they can look pretty decent. I've got 2 of them, one I got dirt cheap from someone cause the sights were canted fixed it refinished the metal and wood looks pretty decent now.
As far as the tapco stock..
If the sights are straight, it'll eat anything you feed it and put them where you aim. I'm not a big believer in asking for much more from my AK's.
Love them for what they are, not what you could turn them into.
so what does WASR stand for? im a newb to AK's. school me.
saw a Hungarian AK at a local shop with a full wood stock w/ thumbhole that i really liked. but id like to learn more about them before making my decision.
What A Shitty Rifle
Hungarians are good shit. you'll have to make it 922 compliant to put a real stock on it though.
what's wrong with that stock? and how would i go about making it 922 compliant? what's the diff between an authentic AK and a century arms/any other manufacturer ak?
Closest you can get to an "authentic" AK is a converted Saiga. easiest way is to replace the trigger group, gas piston, grip, and muzzle break
6 US made parts makes it legal
Alot of people dont find the thumbhole stocks to be comfortable to shoot and prefer the real ak style stocks, although the european made THoles have better ergo's then some of the others. To make it 922 compliant you have to switch out some of the hungarian parts with US made parts, G2 trigger group and US made stock set would keep it compliant, or G2 trigger, us gas piston, us p grip. Main difference between the century WASR's and traditional AKM's is the lack of dimples in the receiver, AK's that started life out as single stacks usually don't have any mag dimples.
why does it need to be 'compliant'? is it illegal if its not?
As it is its legal, but if you were to throw a normal AK stock set on it with out installing any US made parts it would be illegal As it is with the thumbhole it has no "evil" features once you start adding the "evil" features you need to do the parts swap. Will you get caught if you dont put the required parts on? Probably not never heard of anyone busted over not being 922 compliant, is it worth taking the risk? not really.
I haven't seen that one before
thanks for all the info squid. really appreciated
going to be my next, next, next purchase
Get them now before the price goes through the roof. I have a WASR-2 and it's one of my favorite rifles ever.
I can pick up a new WASR-10 for $310 right now FTF.
Come with mags? Either way it's a decent deal.
You can sometimes (usually) score SAR-1's for $375-400 if you browse around.
These are slightly nicer fit and finish, but more importantly they don't start out life as single stacks (have mag dimples), and have a CL tube. Most (maybe all?) of these will be ban-era, if that bothers you. I personally think that they are worth the modest increase in dough.
Rommy G kits come up cheap from time to time, but these are always a crapshoot, as you are at the mercy of the builder. AK's aren't rocket science to build, but some/many seem to find ways to fuck it up.
Just bought one for $320 FTF no tax and 2 mags
It would just be a synthetic stock to match the grip.
http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/images/AK fixed stock.jpg
Word of warning.... their stuff sucks.
That stock feels cheap, mine had flashing on the check that had to be grinded down, and it had a short LOP.
I haven't seen the handguards, but I wouldn't imagine that they any different. Seriously, buy wood, or buy some better quality synthetic. K-Var stuff is pretty good. Unless you are short, with short arms most anyone I've met prefers NATO length buttstocks.
EDIT... Fuck man, I have some spare AK shit laying about. I know I have a Rommy wood set, and maybe even some other stuff. If you want it, I'll dig it out and you can have it. Just pay the shipping cost.
sounds like a plan
If he doesn't want it I have second dibs. Is it the kind with the wood forward pistol grip?