S100 Wax problems?

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  1. Ballast

    Ballast Cold Heartless Bastard

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    Hey guys,

    I tried P21S' S100 paste wax, cause a lot of people have talked about it... and it was recommended by Scott. I'm just wondering if I might have done something wrong applying it.

    It looked amazing 2 days after I put it on, and when it rained, water would bead up and roll right off the car. It's been 4.5 weeks now, and I will admit that it has rained a fair bit... but water is just pooling on my hood now :(

    I put two coats on the entire car. Did I maybe do something wrong, or does this stuff just not last? I was expecting to get 8-12 weeks out of it.
     
  2. Scottwax

    Scottwax Making detailing great again! Moderator

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    If you have a lot of heavy industry or acid rain in your area, the only two carnaubas I know that will hold up are Collinite and Meguiars #16 Pro Paste Wax.
     
  3. Ballast

    Ballast Cold Heartless Bastard

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    We mostly have assembly plants here in london... i don't think that's the problem.

    Maybe i've just been washing it too much. Showing off the shine :)
    I do use Mother's California Gold car wash... so I doubt it was the weak link.

    I put another two coats on today, and it's warmer out, so maybe that will do something. Car will also spend 12 hours in the garage before it sees daylight.
     
  4. Don_Rumsfeld

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    maybe you should try a synthetic like poorboys ex-p
     
  5. NoXeN

    NoXeN You can find me up on one

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    i believe washing takes some of the wax off..
     
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    Ballast Cold Heartless Bastard

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    well, it rained today, and water beaded up and rolled off great... we'll see how long it lasts this time around.
     
  7. NoXeN

    NoXeN You can find me up on one

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    you should fuck off asshole


    and about my E pattern, I mentioned it on autopia in a thread and no one said shit about it :)
     
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    What the Hell is your problem?
     
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    NoXeN You can find me up on one

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    he has some vendetta against me :rofl:
     
  10. Ballast

    Ballast Cold Heartless Bastard

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    washed the car today, and the wax still seems to be holding up well...

    but i doubt you guys are interested in a wash by wash commentary of my car :rofl:
     
  11. pixel804

    pixel804 yabba dabba do

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    so like after you wax and then wash the car - the wash doesn't take off the wax??

    man i'm confused...
     
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    No, washing does not strip wax.
     
  13. Scottwax

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    I don't think he means he waxed the car then immediately washed it. Most waxes can stand up to at least a couple of months of regular washing if you use car wash soap, 0 if you use dawn.
     
  14. pixel804

    pixel804 yabba dabba do

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    aah i see.

    so if you wash + wax, then after some driving and the car gets dirty, and you need to wash again - would you need to remove the wax during this wash before re-applying more wax?
     
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    No, because there's no benefit to stripping wax before applying another coat. It won't hurt anything.
     
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    pixel804 yabba dabba do

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    oh ok :bigthumb: thanks.
     
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    Ballast Cold Heartless Bastard

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    I've always wondered that about claying though. People say "the clay will remove the wax". But doesn't that mean your clay is not filled with the wax, and make it (possibly) less effective?

    Same thing if you want to use a polish? Strip the wax so you can polish the paint, rather than wasting polish and elbow grease on it?
     
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    No, the layer of wax that's on your car is so thin, you're not wasting any extra energy stripping it. Besides, anything that is for the sole purpose of stripping wax (ie Dawn) ruins your paint with repeated use, while polishes care for it.
     
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    Exactly! Rule number one in detailing is always more forward. Dawn is a step back in terms of finish, polishing is a step forward.
     
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    Okay, that makes sense to me. But my next question is this:

    Mother's 3 step Ultimate wax system. Says you only need to use step 1 (pre wax cleaner) like once every 6-12 months, and you can use steps 2 (sealer and glaze) and 3 (wax) every 2 months or so...

    if my wax is wearing down, and i go to hit it with some glaze, will it still get to the paint even if there is still some wax on it? Or does the glaze strip the rest of the wax that's on there?


    not trying to be an ass... i'm just the engineer in me wanting to know how this works.
     
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    Glaze will strip wax, yes.
     
  22. shorty420

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    I use about 3-4 coats of Zaino and then finish it off with S100. Zaino smooths the paint even more and the S100 just makes it look even deeper.
     

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