RX8?

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  1. Drifter87

    Drifter87 Yippi-kay-ay, Motherfucker

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    I have been looking at buying a used RX8. I have found a few that are 2004 or 2005 with 24,000miles to 54,000miles with 6 speed manual for $11,000 to $16,000.

    The common thing I have noticed when driving them is...

    -High pitched ringing noise from transmission, some RX8's are worse than others. In one the ringing became low pitched as I changed gears...

    -Hesitation during hard acceleration throughout the power band, one RX8 had horrible hesitation another seemed to think twice before powering through 3,000rpm in 1st gear.

    -Traction Control lights always on.

    I own an RX7 so I know what to look for in a Rotary, but what are some RX8 specifics or should I find another newer sport car for $15k?
     
  2. GTSlow

    GTSlow New Member

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    Find another sports car.
     
  3. Mercennarius

    Mercennarius Ultra Member OT Supporter

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    350Z > RX-8
     
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    slllllllllllow
     
  5. dguy

    dguy She smells like angels ought to smell.

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    Non turbo rotarys suck.
     
  6. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Go for something newer. Buying the first year or two of any model is always an invitation to have problems that won't go away, and the RX-8 is no exception.

    Besides, the '09s come with strut bars, FD transmissions, and a better apex seal lubrication system.
     
  7. Drifter87

    Drifter87 Yippi-kay-ay, Motherfucker

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    Sounds like I should wait until the 2009's are coming off a lease? :dunno:
     
  8. Drifter87

    Drifter87 Yippi-kay-ay, Motherfucker

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    I want to autocross the car so I find the RX8 attractive beacause...
    -Great Handling
    -High Revving Rotary Engine
    -Rear Wheel Drive
    -Power
    -Price is right

    Right now I race an FC RX7, which I love my 1.3L Rotary and Rear Wheel Drive, but I would like more power and something not 20 years old.
     
  9. RunninWild

    RunninWild How subtle of you

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    I hear they're terrible on gas... Why is that? Also, how heavy are they? Very sleek looking car though. Also, the 09's are better?
     
  10. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Yes, the '09s are somewhat better. The best car you can buy is the last year of the model, generally speaking, because it has all the bugs worked out. The '09s aren't the last year of the RX-8, but there's rumors stirring about a successor, and anyway, it's 5 years into the model's lifecycle so the big problems have all been fixed. (unless you consider the engine to be a big problem, in which case GTFO. :big grin:)

    Rotaries are bad on gas because the engine has a lot of surface area compared to the volume of the combustion chambers, which means that heat can bleed out of the combusting gases more easily than in a piston engine. The RX-8 is the only car I've ever seen with a fully-insulated engine bay. But, it's much less significant in warm weather.

    Oddly, the larger engines (3- and 4-rotors) used in racing are generally more efficient than their piston-engine counterparts, because in those big engines the lack of reciprocating mass really starts to offset the losses from heat escaping through the block.

    I'd wait until the '09s are coming off leases, but then again the '07s and '08s might be good too, just lacking the strut bar. I don't know exactly when they introduced the better lube system, I just know that my '09 has it. But if you premix, it's a non-issue anyway.
     
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    it gets bad gas mileage, but other than that, it is a light RWD sports coupe that revs insanely high and is a fun drive. but I'd still get an s2k over one.
     
  12. Drifter87

    Drifter87 Yippi-kay-ay, Motherfucker

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    Right now my RX7 gets 24mpg when I drive it nicely. When I autocross or just drive hard I tend to get ~16mpg.

    The gas mileage does not bother me. Its a sport car, as long as I can drive around town and not have to fill up 5 times I'm happy.

    Overall it sounds like I should get an '09 or newer...
     
  13. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    Yeah, I was looking around and it seems the '09s were the first to feature the upgraded lubrication system. Plus, the FD gearbox is a lot stronger.
     
  14. Mercennarius

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    I heard the 09s got the updated Miata tranny, not the FDs...
     
  15. dguy

    dguy She smells like angels ought to smell.

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    Correct. They put the Miata 6 speed manufactured by Aisin int he Rx8.
     
  16. RunninWild

    RunninWild How subtle of you

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    I've always been interested in this car. I think I want to drive one
     
  17. Havsie

    Havsie When I die, bury me inside the Pepsi 1893 store OT Supporter

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    slow, underpowered, worse gas mileage than a v8


    11-16k?
    350z or WRX/STI...faster in basically every way and better MPG
     
  18. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    But still not a rotary.

    If all you care about is horsepower, then go with the cheapest bang-to-buck ratio you can get. Rotary fanboys have other things in mind. And if you think it's slow, you haven't actually been in one. I was entirely prepared to find out it was a dog when I test drove one, but I discovered the "underpowered" stigma is way overblown. It's no Corvette, but it's plenty fast, and it corners marvelously -- which doesn't matter if you're a stoplight racer, but I'm not one.

    Regarding the transmission: specifically, what I heard was it's a "variant" of the FD transmission. Considering the MX-5 came out while the FD was still in production, and they were the only two RWD cars Mazda made at the time, I can believe there was quite a bit of parts-sharing going on, even if the casings weren't identical.
     
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    It is grippy and corners amazingly well, also extremely fun to drive, but I am going to have to honestly say it is not 'fast' by the definition of race/track speeds.
     
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    It has one of the best stock chassis/suspensions in the coupe/tourer category...overall...exotics and high performance euros included.
     
  21. deusexaethera

    deusexaethera OT Supporter

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    I love the way mine handles. No body lean at all, and it handles bumps way better than my dad's Miata.
     
  22. c0ldf1ame

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    one of the best handling cars i've driven hands down, very fun on the track. I got 19mpg in my 06 the other day, highest i've ever hit was around 21mpg but that was with freeway driving only, as for going with 04s, older cars may have bad coils, bad cats, could be easily fixed by replacing coil/wire/plugs and a race pipe, i'd suggest a compression test before buying anything, also mazda has a 10year 100k mile warranty on the engine, so if one is going out you may still be able to get a new engine for free.
     
  23. Raider007

    Raider007 om nom nom nom

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    concider an s2k?
    better car in every category
     
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    Variant Cast in the name of God, ye not guilty.

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    ugly, slow, basically a travesty that makes the FD roll over in its grave.
     
  25. GTSlow

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    except the backseat/daily driver category.
     

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