MMA Rousimar "Toquinho" Palhares v. Cut him

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  1. $lacker

    $lacker FD/Dental/Canadian/Cage Crews OT Supporter

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    Palhares ripped dude's knee to pieces, pulling harder while the ref was clearly trying to stop him, so I think he needs to be kept out of the UFC or at least punished severely. The damage he caused after the ref ended the fight was far worse than what Babalu did last year (or whenever that was)
    The only difference is the blood was visible on Sobral whereas Palhares didn't end up with pieces of torn tendon on his grill
    Fuck him, get his ass out of there before he injures someone with a name that people are familiar with
     
  2. GreatDeceiver

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    This has already been discussed in a couple threads, no need for its own.
     
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    and Brock Lesnar should've be cut for badmouthing a major sponsor and acting like a completely unprofessional fighter. as well as Tito for yelling "payback's a bitch mothafucka" to Mark Coleman, as well as many many others for previous actions.




    Palhares already apologized and Drwal's camp said its just the way things are in MMA.


    http://mmajunkie.com/news/18490/tom...res-after-ufc-111-loss-mri-results-monday.mma


    :werd: lock it and move on.
     
  4. alkalinesolo

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    Yep, he should be cut. The UFC needs to show that they won't tolerate that kind of behavior from their athletes.
     
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    [y]lzP91Rn0wSE[/y]

    CUT DAN HENDERSON :rolleyes:
     
  7. muscle68

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    THEY DID :eek3:
     
  8. kilian

    kilian You've got quite a treasure there in that Horadric OT Supporter

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    haha :mamoru:

    damn you and your pigeonholing my point loco :wtc:
     
  9. Nomad

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    fair enough they're not exactly similar, another example, Bisping was out when Hendo knocked him out, how was that dropping punch at all needed when Bisping was completely out?

    i'm not saying Palhares is a saint or anything or that the supension isnt unwarranted. its just funny how everyone is getting all bent out of shape over it but you were ok with Carwin beating on Mir even though Mir was completely out of it.

    edit - fuck Killian beat me to it with the Bisping/Hendo reference
     
  10. kilian

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    or the numerous times refs have had to physically DIVE onto a fighter and wrestle his arms away from slamming the unconscious guy more.

    that's just part of the fight, but when it's a submission it's different, and you should release the instant the ref touches you or you're an animal and should be cut. (THIS IS SARCASM FOR YOU LESS THAN INTELLIGENT PEOPLE)

    shut the fuck up.
     
  11. $lacker

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    I don't think Bisping needed any surgery or months of time off following the extra couple cracks from Hendo, and Carwin only kept going until the ref jumped in... the ref should've stopped it sooner, but chose not to

    I wasn't in the huge UFC 111 thread when the fight happened, so I didn't know if it was covered
     
  12. kilian

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    Yes, because it's prudent to determine whether something needs a suspension or not based on the amount of immediate and apparent damage it does.

    I'm sure taking 4 shots to the head with a backing (head on the ground) is great for your brain in the long run and is not a problem!

    Unless you're going to suspend and/or cut every guy who does that shit, then fuck off with crucifying palhares.
     
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    :werd:

    edit - what about that guy Matthew Riddle knocked out on TUF 7 and broke his jaw in 3 places? thats cool though right?
     
  14. Redneck Shinobi

    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    :bowdown: Hero post right there!
     
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    Savage5point0 Im an asshole.

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    I dont think he yanked on it that long. Maybe a second or a second and a half after the ref put his hands on him. Just because it did damage or didnt shouldnt have any bearing on judgment.
     
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    bro you are crazy. watch the replay, it was like 5 seconds the guy held and cranked. ACL's in your knee are super sensitive, and he probably tore way more than just that as well. Sure, he should crank with the intention of breaking it, but once the guy taps out he should let go. It is all being recorded, there is no way he can claim he didn't tap...

    Holding on to something that long is just ridiculous. People who dispute this have never been put in a serious heel hook before. I am not talking about the newb blue belt in your class half-assing it and causing you a tingling feeling.
     
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    It was not 5 seconds, watch and count

    http://squabbles.com/2010/03/rousimar-palhares-vs-tomasz-drwal-ufc-111-full-fight-video/

    it wasnt even 5 seconds from when he originally tapped
     
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    Redneck Shinobi Well Jules, the funny thing about my back is that

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    Rogan was also probably stoned and it seemed right at the time.
     
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    Henderson didn't keep hitting Bisping after the ref dove in. For Palhares to keep wrenching the sub after the guy was tapping is acceptable (a dick move, but acceptable) - for Palhares to keep the submission on when the ref is trying to rip his hand off is unacceptable, and shouldn't be tolerated by the UFC.
    I said the same thing about Soko when he kept hitting the guy after the ref jumped in.

    If you keep doing damage to an opponent willingly when the ref is trying to stop the fight, you have no business being in the biggest MMA promotion in the world.
     
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    Mazzagatti should of been suspended for waiting forever to stop Mir vs Lesner 1

    Lesnar had to tap 5 or 6 times :rofl:
     
  23. $lacker

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    Exactly... go nuts until the ref stops the fight... then calm the fuck down or pay the price
    And yes, I think it's reasonable for the punishment to be based partially on the amount of damage sustained as a result. Lots of rules/laws are based on that premise.
    In hockey/football, you're allowed to body check/tackle... but if you do it purposely after the play has been stopped, you'll get shit on. Especially if you cause serious damage to the player that gets hit
     
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    :rofl:

    giant adrenaline rush and fight/flight response and you want them to just "calm down"

    :rofl:

    you're a fucking idiot
     
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    You're shitting me, right?
     

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